Times: Sunak preparing to block Scottish gender reform bill

But thank you for demonstrating that blind nationalism has no care for cost, and has no interest in their women, children, homosexuals, equality, fairness, human rights, that sort of stuff.... just so long as it gets what it wants.

The BNP have that kind of attitude don't they?

If you seriously think a fair price for independence is the legal creation of two classes of human, the top of which is men, the subordinated lower class with less is women and children?

Then you do you. But no, that's not something the UK should be permitting, and anyone in favour of this should not be in a position of power to achieve it.

Which makes devolution look something Scotland is not competent to do,

Seriously? That's the kind of attitude that would make me shout from the rafters for independence.

But the SNP have always gunned hard for the young vote, and I worry about how this will be read there.

When I was 16 I would have voted SNP.

I was in Scotland recently and I didn't get the impression that people were happy by this law. Although most would not support the SNP I believe.

Looking at the 'this is what devolved means, get out of our country rahhhh' comments though, it does come down to 'we have the right to abuse and subordinate our women and children if we want to and you can't stop us'. Which makes devolution look something Scotland is not competent to do, and which many of their people have a serious problem with. She's blown it. Hugely.

Oh and the non stop banging out of lies that have been repeatedly disproven, even in court and are still being wanged out by those who either don't really know what they're talking about and are parroting what they've been told or by those who identify as the truth being what fits what they want. The old joke about 'how do you know a politician is lying' is starting to apply quite heavily to this particular political lobby and apparently many supporting it.

I live in Scotland. I can't stop thinking about this either. I suspect she's hoping for a groundswell of patriotism to ignite desires for independence. I hope it generates a groundswell of awareness of exactly what the GRR will cost women, and drags a factual debate out into the open. Because the snp/greens have tried to avoid a public factual debate. Yelling 'project fear' worked for them before and I think they hoped 'transphobic' would be equally chilling and silencing.

Everyone I know opposes the GRR, and some are pro-Indy. I think, for them, Westminster stepping in will be a massively inconvenient relief. This whole experience has cemented my opposition to the SNP. I was drifting towards independence because of Brexit. But no way would I want it with these stupid cloth-eared clowns in charge.

But the SNP have always gunned hard for the young vote, and I worry about how this will be read there.

Thanks rex

The confidence in this last statement seems misplaced.

“We have always been clear that the Bill does not impact on the Equality Act, and the Bill as passed puts that position beyond doubt.”

Either their legal team is incompetent or they simply believe their interpretation is the only one.

Either way, Wednesday will be very interesting. Maybe, the judicial review process may well take this bill past Sturgeon’s time in office depending on her next moves. Who knows what the future brings for her!

Maybe the Equality Act will get debated and reviewed to be strengthened so there is no doubt in any one’s mind about who can be excluded and who cannot in the meantime.

What will happen though, is that if there is a judicial review, the EA will have to be discussed thoroughly and I doubt it will show all those saying ‘there is no impact on women’ as 100% truthful and certainly not balanced.

I think that the EA will have been analysed in greater detail by the end of the Judicial Review and it certainly may end up being tweaked as a result so there is little chance in the future that it could be misinterpreted again.

Maybe I am just an eternal optimist.

My family in Scotland- independence voters- are willing Sunak to block this nonsense.

It's all very well Sturgeon going to court, but surely she would never win?

Most of the law commentary I have seen on Twitter believes this will impact the whole of the UK as well as the implantation of the Equality Act in Scotland.

Would losing not be a massive slap in the face? Or is she hoping that enough get all patriotic 1st and then forget about it by the time the court case comes around?

But again, I suspect that the majority of the Scottish population are glad they are part of the UK at the moment and willing UK govt to block it

He's just continue gathering those splinters in his arse, same as he ever has. Prob got enough in there to start a fire as he walks now.

I'm interested to see if Keir Starmer reacts. If the calculation is that NS has overreached and does not have enough Scots supporting her then Sunak must be pretty.

So where does that leave Starmer.

I'm in Central Scotland and am surrounded by snp zealots. One friend is a local Councillor on an snp ticket.

Without exception, every single one of them has stfu completely about snp stuff on fb since this insane vote happened.

Without exception. Not one word, not even from the most outspoken snp representing, attend all the marches and protests, danger haired individual in the group.

You can't defend the indefensible.

Why are the SNP/Greens using THIS issue in their quest to blame Westminster and push for independence? If anything WM (if they do block it) deserve much praise, and it pains me to say that in current Tory times.

Thank you all for the links , much appreciated

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/is-rishi-sunak-about-to-block-scotlands-gender-id-law_uk_63c06a2ce4b0d6724fcbe8e5

"Whitehall sources say Alister Jack, the secretary of state for Scotland, will announce on Wednesday that the UK government will block the bill." Looking more promising

Re: SLaM & our fishy friends, I do wonder what a FOI request would reveal about the balance of by whom they’re being trained & about what 🤔
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A SLaM spokesman said: “This training is not related to the development of an early adopter service for children and young people experiencing gender incongruence and gender dysphoria.
“We commission as well as directly provide high-quality professional training courses from a wide range of providers as part of our training offer for our staff to further support the provision of personalised, safe and therapeutic care for young people and adults using mental health services.”
A spokesman for the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust said: “The Trust has a clear position of independence, and engages with a number of support groups with a range of different positions. We are committed to providing an environment where staff can work thoughtfully with each individual patient with no preferred outcome in mind.”

Are they a Trust that ran the Oliver McGowan Mandatory Training on Learning Disability and Autism as soon as it became available for example? How much training do they receive on FGM, as the local population the Trust serves includes girls at risk & women who are survivors of it? Hinduism & Islam? (Lewisham has a Temple & a Mosque). Are they trained on the needs of the Irish diaspora as a discrete group (& the various sub-groupings within that)? What training has resulted from the publication of the BLACHIR Report?

What’s the betting that like every fecker else their EDI Training is almost entirely about the LGBTQ; heavy emphasis on the last two letters?

SLaM have no business being allowed to set themselves up as shiny new specialist centre when they cannot currently provide anything close to adequate services for children & young people in the part of London they are meant to serve. All this “children languishing for years on NHS gender clinic lists” - apparently they’re not also on lists for CAMHS because ageing out is a thing there too. Or not even getting onto the list, because at age 10 you’ve been sent on a mindfulness course run by children’s services that’s meant to fix your crippling anxiety.

(Sorry, am just v cross about it all. Ugh.)

I think the majority of the Scottish populace are completely sick of the SNP constantly clamouring that every bloody thing that doesn't go well or go their way is 'Westminster'. It's a very worn excuse.

I say this as a former independence voter.

In addition, the SNP is not interested in Independence, according to various informed parties. They have too much to lose!

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It will be seen as colonial interference and will only increase support for independence by making out that the Scot govt has been wronged by the Evil English overruling our legitimate devolved processes.

It’s a difficult place to be as it will help her aim

I’d be tempted to pass it to the Supreme Court to take the heat of it politically

This is why she's put it forward. She wants him to step in and block it to drive the campaign for independence.

As long as I don’t have to hear Labour and SNP are doing better on this whilst they destroy women’s rights, people can trust who they want. It’s irrelevant to me.

But trying to deflect away from what’s happening under SNP and Labour won’t help.