Pitts Children’s Hospital looking into transplant of vagina/uterus from live donors

Apart from the very idea of harvesting female reproductive systems for the purpose of implanting them into men-with-identities being wholly unethical, my main feeling about this is

how very fucking grotesque.

They’re as mad as a box of frogs. They’ve even got the Gender Unicorn linked. www.chp.edu/our-services/aya-medicine/gender-development/resources

This

I cannot have children because I was born with a congenital abnormailtiy of the uterus. But apparently I'm not brave and stunning enough to get the option of a uterus transplant

I mean I wouldn't go for it because transplant surgery is a massive deal and for some reason I feel a bit wierd about the thought of having someone's uterus transplanted just to have children rather than say a heart or a lung to stay alive, in a way that I just can't articulate fully, but that's me personally.

But still it would be nice to be first in the queue for body parts that are actually designed for my body

Wtf how is this a thing

Lmao. So “cis” women can’t talk about our periods and uteri and vaginas because it’s transphobic and NOT ALL WOMEN HAVE PERIODS/BIOESSENTIALIST/GENITAL OBSESSED but 94% of TW want vaginas/uteri? I thought vaginas didn’t define womanhood!

That's the film I was thinking of, couldn't remember the title.

This.

The vulnerable people who would offer up their bodies to these types of experiments are exactly the kind of young people who believe, not just pretend, when someone who claims they are the opposite sex.

This needs posting on every page. I wish we could pin posts to the top of pages!

And yes. This is animal cruelty.

Just like gestating a lamb in a bag is animal cruelty.

I'm not surprised to hear this, but what an indictment of these young people's grasp of how bodies work. The cosmetic surgery industry allied with all the filters on social media have really done a number on their grasp of what's normal and what bodies really look like, especially after surgery. Surgery has been pushed as a perfectly normal, routine thing to do but there's nothing like as much attention paid to the cases where it goes wrong or where it was never going to go right, because it's all just too difficult (e.g. phalloplasty).

Yes. This.. Thank you Nauticant.

That is horrific.

Same. I'm not taking the chance that in future (this future has apparently now arrived hence OP) my reproductive parts will be left alone. Mine are past their use by date and I still dont trust that they wont be used for something as unethical as this. Even if they just want samples for testing for the likes of this, it's a no from me. I will have no part in Frankenstein experiments that I massively disagree with. Ftr I'd be set against another woman getting my reproductive parts too for different reasons.

I'm also dead against being opted in but had done nothing about that. So two birds, one stone.

Agree.

There is a kind of male who sees any attention or special consideration women get around periods and pregnancy as a privilege. They resent that they can't have this perceived privilege. They lack the ability to empathise with women or the inclination to listen to women's actual experience.

Self ID welcomes these misogynists if they decide to identify as women.

This is a common conversation topic among gender diverse young people. The first time I heard a young woman saying she wished she could give a young man her breasts.

I remember back in the 1970s a rather pompous headmaster who was a friend of my parents used to say that if women and men alternated having babies no family would have more than three children. Probably right.

So 94% of survey respondents in this study said they would like to have female body parts so that they could experience menstruation, pregnancy and child birth.

Happy to be corrected, but if I understood the articles about donor transplant from female to female, it looks to have been the uterus only that was transplanted, and purely with the intention of permitting the recipient to give birth. And pregnancy was achieved via IVF, with the uterus being removed as quickly as possible after birth. So definitely not to give those women a menstrual cycle?

Am I the only one who thinks that after a couple of menstrual cycles we'd see a huge drop from 94%? You know, after the novelty wore off?

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I've told dh that he's to allow any of my organs to be used after I die, EXCEPT for my reproductive organs. My uterus, ovaries and anything else connected to reproduction go to the grave with me. Even woman-to-woman uterus transplants are unethical IMO, let alone implanting one in a man.

Still can't get over the fact that this research to benefit men is being carried out at a Children's hospital. It highlights how children are viewed by so many involved with this ideology - and depressingly explains the repeated incidents where safeguarding children is undermined.

Well I'm not opting back in to the organ donor register until I have, in writing on my record, a list of organs I'm willing to donate and a space to note the organs I'm not willing to donate.

Just proves it's all for men. The amount of money pumped into 'research' for utter fantasy.

(I'm influenced here by knowing through work several people who would have died young without a transplant. Womb transplants are science fiction. @nauticant's excellent post is absolutely on the money about why this is even under discussion.)

I second this. I think we did have confirmation before that wombs etc are not even considered in the tragic circumstance that a woman is about to die and her family are asked if they would be willing to allow some of her organs to be transplanted. Cornea, heart, kidney, liver - I expect there are others. All of them potentially life-changing to someone else. At 61 I am probably past the age where any of mine would be good enough to transplant, but I've been on the transplant register all my adult life and all my family know anybody can have any bit of me that's useful to someone else. (I have told my longsuffering husband that that doesn't include my reproductive system, but nobody would want it, riddled with endometriosis as it was until the menopause.)

An ovary transplant would also be necessary as this is involved in menstruating but how would you make ovaries function in a male body?

Which would mean the transman would have to pay CS? Or not?

And SURELY penis implants would be massively easier and safer. Why are womb implants being talked about first? Unless they are <bleaches eyeballs in anticipation> Almost like, for some reason, TW are more important.