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Call to boycott new Harry Potter game over JK Rowling trans comments fails

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IwantToRetire · 12/01/2023 01:09

Despite the controversy surrounding the author, Hogwarts Legacy game was the top-selling title on PC distribution platform Steam on Monday and Tuesday, ahead of other high-profile releases such as "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II" and "Destiny 2".

It was also the best-selling title in the PlayStation Store's "coming soon" category this week, ahead of other much-anticipated games such as "Star Wars Jedi: Survivor" and "Dead Space."

The fan fervour around the game, due to be released on February 10th, has not stopped trans activists and supporters from trying to derail its launch, with some adding ‘transphobic’ tags to the game’s page on Steam, though these were quickly deleted. ...

On its FAQ page about the game, publishing company Warner Bros.Games said it was "not a new story" from her.

It added: "J.K. Rowling is not directly involved in the creation of the game, however, her extraordinary body of writing is the foundation of all projects in the Wizarding World."

uk.news.yahoo.com/call-boycott-harry-potter-game-130236693.html

Good to know that a commercial company has more ethics then the pathetic little film "stars" who are happy to advance themselves through her work, but fail to acknowledge her.

(Thought it would be nice to end on an upbeat story!)

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Fairislefandango · 13/01/2023 22:06

Consenting adults can do what they want and identify however they please.

Yes, they can. I could identify as a banana if I wanted. That doesn't mean that other adults should feel they have to agree that I am one, or that the definition of a banana should be changed so that I can be classified as one.

LaughingPriest · 13/01/2023 22:03

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 22:01

Yes, and I also believe transwomen are women and transmen are men.

Consenting adults can do what they want and identify however they please. It's no business of others. We don't need hate groups (cough LGB Alliance) set-up specifically to target and harass transpeople who are in relationships.

Yes, it's bigoted?

And you claim to support gay people?

You don't actually believe TWAW, because you can't say what a woman is. May as well say you believe TW are glksdf. It's not a belief if the word is literally meaningless.

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 22:01

LaughingPriest · 13/01/2023 21:36

What do you think 'gay' means, Mags? Is it same-sex attraction? Or is it bigoted to think that?

Yes, and I also believe transwomen are women and transmen are men.

Consenting adults can do what they want and identify however they please. It's no business of others. We don't need hate groups (cough LGB Alliance) set-up specifically to target and harass transpeople who are in relationships.

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 21:58

VinoDino · 13/01/2023 21:03

@MargaritaPie I care about lesbians who are being called bigoted for not accepting 'lady dick'. Do you?

Sounds like you've been reading that BBC article

LaughingPriest · 13/01/2023 21:36

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 18:42

At a time when so many people are struggling to buy food or pay heating bills, it seems a bit petty to buy a premium-priced video game you have no intention of playing for whatever your point is meant to be.

I may do "a little more gardening" for Stonewall, because I care about LGBT rights and I know it's for a good cause. IMO it doesn't make sense to just throw money away for nothing.

What do you think 'gay' means, Mags? Is it same-sex attraction? Or is it bigoted to think that?

UncleQuentinsWife · 13/01/2023 21:28

I've bought two packets of Tunnocks caramel wafers a week since they we're 'boycotted'. Halo

startrek90 · 13/01/2023 21:18

So glad to hear this. Unfortunately I have to wait until July for it to come out on my console but I can't actually wait to play it. Really heartening to see that despite the noise on twitter etc that ordinary people just get on with their lives and ignore this utter bullshit.

VinoDino · 13/01/2023 21:03

@MargaritaPie I care about lesbians who are being called bigoted for not accepting 'lady dick'. Do you?

ReunitedThorns · 13/01/2023 20:25

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 18:42

At a time when so many people are struggling to buy food or pay heating bills, it seems a bit petty to buy a premium-priced video game you have no intention of playing for whatever your point is meant to be.

I may do "a little more gardening" for Stonewall, because I care about LGBT rights and I know it's for a good cause. IMO it doesn't make sense to just throw money away for nothing.

At a time when so many people are struggling with heating and eating it seems silly to waste money on an organisation whose main aim is to force everyone to put their pronouns in their email signatures.

Always4Brenner · 13/01/2023 20:18

I’m not a gamer but delighted it’s sold well done her fans of Harry Potter.

lechiffre55 · 13/01/2023 20:16

If you want to support a sane approach to LGB and female rights might I suggest buying a Harry Potter game might not be the best approach. JKR is only going to get a slice of the game's sales. JKR is also already hugely wealthy. It enables JKR to do great things for female rights but she's not the only game in town.
For instance the LGB Alliance are doing great work on this front and are nowhere near as well funded as JKR.
In my opinion JKR is a superstar so I'm not being even slightly critical of her. I'm saying there's more than one organization doing great work. If you buy the Harry Potter game JKR will get maybe £5-10 out of your £50. If you donate £50 to the LGB Alliance they will get most of it depending on who is processing the money. I'm just using the LGB Alliance as an example, look into it and find a smaller charity doing good work that you think deserves your support.
However after all I've just said one thing that supporting the Harry Potter will do is get noticed by the accountants. Unit sales are very important. Cash coming in is hugely important. Given JKR is meant to be cancelled by the nutters every unit sold tells the bean counters how little the mandrake screeching of the nutters matters. No author who's work sells games, books, etc... as much as JKR's does around the world, being a number one bestseller on multiple platforms, is cancelled in the eyes of the bean counters. Making JKR number one by buying her stuff sends a VERY clear message to the suits in the language they understand the most.
PS in case you didn't know the video games market is worth more than Hollywood, the entire movie industry and the entire music industry all put together. It's the number one market in the entertainment industry. It's not a small indy niche market, is the biggest game in town. JKR is top of that market right now. This isn't small beans.

Fairislefandango · 13/01/2023 19:47

Oh Margarita, you’re letting yourself down! Who are you to tell someone they are a gamer or not? If they identify as a gamer …

Grin I think I might start identifying as a gamer just so I have an excuse to buy it!
SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 19:33

Why anyone who cares for LGB rights would support Stonewall is beyond me. They've thrown them under the bus to push the Trans agenda.

Rainbowshit · 13/01/2023 19:18

@MargaritaPie money well spent then as clearly it's got right up your nose. 😂😂

ADreamIsAllINeedToGetBy · 13/01/2023 19:12

I hadn't really paid much attention but have now looked at the game and plan to get it. Just need to wait for it to come down in price as can't afford £60 right now for the standard version

MargaritaPie · 13/01/2023 18:42

Rainbowshit · 12/01/2023 19:53

  • Super.

I'll send a donation to Stonewall right now to balance the scales.*
@MargaritaPie

Just bought it because of your pathetic post. I don't even play computer games.

At a time when so many people are struggling to buy food or pay heating bills, it seems a bit petty to buy a premium-priced video game you have no intention of playing for whatever your point is meant to be.

I may do "a little more gardening" for Stonewall, because I care about LGBT rights and I know it's for a good cause. IMO it doesn't make sense to just throw money away for nothing.

LurkyMcLurkLurk · 12/01/2023 22:33

And Simon Pegg is voicing Phineas Nigellus Black - headmaster of Hogwarts in the game. This game is sounding better and better. Wonder if Simon will be cancelled, or will his being male be enough to save him?

OneMorePlant · 12/01/2023 22:28

I forgot to add, all those activists that are buying the game, just goes to show they are doing nothing but virtue signalling and they don't believe their own bullshit.

If they truly, really believe that JK Rowling is causing mass genocide and harming trans people and they still buy this game, it just goes to show they have no integrity or morals.

I've got an array of companies now that I'm boycotting because they jumped on the trans train and I just can't ever forgive them throwing women and children under the bus to try and sell products. It's good for my wallet, gave me money to buy the deluxe edition of Hogwarts. lmao

OneMorePlant · 12/01/2023 22:21

I've been cackling about this for days I'm loving how the TRA are freaking out on twitter and other places and finally starting to realise no one cares about them.

Got to give a shout out to Valve who are such a great company. Steam is amazing at handling TRA freakouts and they work so hard to keep the platform great for everyone else. This isn't the first game the TRA had a meltdown over and it won't be the last.

The game critic media are really a joke. Them not talking about this games just confirms it. No serious gamer even looks at those. Most don't give honest scores when it comes to AAA games because they are scared to no longer get firsts and free goodies from the companies and we all know it. Steam and it's community give you the best information you need.

I'm looking forward to playing the game.

fromorbit · 12/01/2023 21:52

nauticant · 12/01/2023 17:42

Not very convincing essay. We know the British public still loves Rowling that is why they buy her books when they come out with another no 1 bestseller in 2022 and watch Strike on the BBC.

This game will earn JKR some cash for sure, but it won't be that much compared to the real money spinners which are the Potter theme parks round the world with millions of visitors and all the Potter merchandise and books sold everywhere. Plus the revenue from streaming.

HP ongoing success is due not just to JKR's writing, but also the marketing power of Warner Brothers who created the films, games, merchandise empire and advertise and stream the films. Notice people talk of boycotting one game, what they won't do is boycott Warner Brothers/HBO who have swathes of employees whose aim is make HP more successful than ever in every area.

Because boycotting Warner means no more LOTR films, Game of Thrones, or any DC comic/film products plus many other major names. Every time you consume any of those products you fund Warner who live to make the Wizarding World bigger than ever and to ensure Rowling becomes ever more wealthy and influential so she can speak the truth.

The success of the game is a small part of that.

Rainbowshit · 12/01/2023 19:53
  • Super.

I'll send a donation to Stonewall right now to balance the scales.*
@MargaritaPie

Just bought it because of your pathetic post. I don't even play computer games.

nauticant · 12/01/2023 17:42

If you want to see the reasonable trans activist case, you can read it here:

web.archive.org/web/20230109193850/www.thegamer.com/hogwarts-legacy-harry-potter-jk-rowling-controversy-boycott-battleground/

Here's the author of that article: twitter.com/fivetacey/status/1519710320620716032

Merlinsbeard83 · 12/01/2023 17:38

We will be buying it . We love lego Harry Potter. My kids love the books and audio books.

lechiffre55 · 12/01/2023 17:35

Just a minor point to try and make amends for all my MSM derailing.
On Steam the ranking system is ordered by money being spent by consumers on Steam, not how many units sold. So the Harry Potter game being top means it's generating the most money of any product on Steam. I think it's international too, so that would be worldwide. JKR will be getting a slice of all of that. It's going to be a LOT of money. Great news considering how supportive of women's rights she is out of her own pocket.
I don't know how other platform ranking are done, but on Steam alone JKR is doing very well, add the other platforms on top.

gfy · 12/01/2023 17:27

I've preordered the deluxe version! It absolutely looks amazing and I can't wait to play it.

I don't think JK is trans phobic however if she was buying a game doesn't mean you're transphobic.

In actual fact the developers (rightly or wrongly) have distanced themselves from her and made the game trans friendly - what more do the trans community want? Blood?

They aren't going to hurt JK, it'll be the developers they hurt whose put so much passion into this game, it's sad.