People from our side being vocal on Twitter re gender identity ideology in schools

Listen to the talk with Helen Joyce from about 47 minutes on to hear her succinct explanation of how Drag Queen Story Time is used to indoctrinate children.

Apropos the Tate pushing gender ideology on to young children, ⬆️

Helen Joyce on Triggernometry explains Drag Queen Story Hour and what is wrong with it.

IcakethereforeIam · Today 10:15
I've put it on the petition board
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

Well done, that’s a good idea.

If anyone wants to hear what Helen Joyce says about Drag Queen Story hour,the drag queen in question, and why no it is not the same as panto, this subject comes up on her Triggernometry talk.

I've put it on the petition board

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

2fallsfromSSA · Today 08:24
IcakethereforeIam · 11/01/2023 18:34
The SSA have lots of links to Change.org petition asking the Tate to stop pushing gender at kids. The links just go to Change.org. I've tried searching the site and I can't find their petition. Has it been removed?

It was removed by change and is now hosted on a different platform. Will just find the link.

Thank you, I have signed this.

I had credited the Tate with more intelligence. This is disappointing to hear about and an example of a great public institution sinking to the very lowest common denominator.

Can we get this on the petitions board so as to keep posting it without getting deleted?

www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-gender-propaganda-at-Tate

Thank you, signed it.

@IcakethereforeIam it's now here

www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-gender-propaganda-at-Tate

It was removed by change and is now hosted on a different platform. Will just find the link.

Are you trying to say your childs godparent is into beastiality?

Cos I'm not sure I'd let someone like that near my children.

I cant think why else you would mention this fact on a thread about beastiality.

Just quickly putting this here, our response to the headteachers thread which summarises and highlights a lot of the points being made on this thread.

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1613596411525840896?s=46&t=ENaKSFMBKu9m9LwtEWCnGQ

Meant to say, even though Ofsted is captured to an unknown extent, Amanda Spielman seemed to realise (in the last year or so) that they had to sort themselves out. And the facts are the facts. "Same gender" doesn't exist in the Equality Act so it can't be wriggled out of.

I would not be happy about this. It gets the law wrong on sexual orientation. I would challenge it and/or send it to Ofsted. They should not be teaching "same gender".

Looking at PSHE stuff my kids have brought home it seems that 'gay' and 'lesbian' now means 'attracted to the same gender'.
I hate that I've tried to raise both of them to know that it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, you can play with/like/do anything you want and now we're all being reduced to a set of stereotypes.

Yes it is and don't hold your breath on Dept of Ed doing anything while Gillian Keegan is Minister for Education. She has recently refused to define "girl" and is TWAW.

It is really scary though, that a Federation employing that many staff across that many schools, affecting that many children, can have policies that are SO DANGEROUS. And so divorced from reality and law. And there's no one doong anything about it.

A search of LinkedIn will show that Ofsted is quite captured.

It seems as if Ofsted are trying to quietly row back on their enthusiasm for trans ideology but without anyone noticing.

It's also subjective. Without the guidance directly from KCSIE or Ofsted, individual inspectors are slightly open to how they interpret what they're looking for.

They're looking for reasons for schools not to be outstanding at the moment; it's v hard to be outstanding now.

If 'kids know the EA characteristics' seems to have been one tick list locally. Which resulted in neg comments that children in one school near here didn't know what transgender was. (Possibly linked to KCSIE bullying para?) Which means schools will then do direct teaching about EA.

Heads read the reports avidly and share lists of questions or what was said internally on fb groups or lea contacts, head teacher meetings etc. the public reports themselves are extremely sparse. A great deal more is said in feedback sessions. (The previous comment from individual feedback was passed to me via a head from another head after their Ofsted. It's not written like that in the report.)

Many are current SLT or retired heads or DH. Unless direct statements are made by Ofsted or it's in KCSIE it's all going to row back when general society does. Till then schools are adding to it all.

(Sorry, some of my posts aren't great with grammar as I'm rushing and squinting.)

We've had transactivists on here (and I recall a barrister in the Allison Bailey case) arguing that women refusing to accept the presence of males as they're undressing is akin to racism.

Which, when you unpack it, is requiring the woman to validate the male with their body. By exposing their body. How much more grim does it need to get?

Yes. We've had transactivists on here (and I recall a barrister in the Allison Bailey case) arguing that women refusing to accept the presence of males as they're undressing is akin to racism. That's how prevalent (and apparently socially acceptable in certain circles) predatory values have become. And these people are able to influence all the agencies and schools mentioned above.

And that teacher would deserve such a charge. I cannot believe how easily this abuse of young girls has become acceptable.

Not yet. They're trying currently to get their head around the idea that what they heard the SNP say on telly wasn't actually the exact truth.

Just to add to Warrior's informative post - Ofsted were captured by the trans lobby early on - going for and neutralising the enforcement arms (Ofsted, CQC, NSPCC, DfE etc) is essential if you want to undermine people's rights to boundaries - especially children's rights. It seems as if Ofsted are trying to quietly row back on their enthusiasm for trans ideology but without anyone noticing.

Like many captured institutions (including this government) they're only now beginning to understand the negative impacts on the safety and wellbeing of children but are caught having originally promoted it.

They just see themselves as decent people and think that all right-minded people think like they do. They don't understand the issues, and anyone who tries to raise them is dismissed.

Live demonstration of this going on currently on another thread.

A bit of 'my lovely friend' being tossed around (with absolute naivety and lack of life experience regarding the kind of women most affected, no lovely friends who need refuges, are of cultures and beliefs affected, who are disabled or traumatised)

Fingers in ears and absolute denial of culpability of enabling the really grim bits like the rape of women (who they'll never meet or have to cope with having empathy towards, who are very 'other' to them) because it's just about lovely people who just want to pee.

And can't possibly do that in ways that would work equally for females.

Currently being shown the porn realities of 'just wanting to pee', and the selfies of masturbating in women's spaces/swords waved etc. But that will be 'outliers' and 'a few bad apples shouldn't mean that women make men sad in their own interests because nice women....' - make sex based sacrifices.

It's penis portions. That's really most of it. Trained and ingrained.

Ofsted test the school on the key points in KCSIE.

The only part that specifically mentions trans is around safeguarding against bullying (which links to EA.)

Anecdotally, locally, some seem to be a little overly invested in making sure children understand what the protected characteristics are.

We've literally been drilled on key questions we'd be asked by Ofsted, for example, and particularly, "who do you go to if you suspect the head of a safeguarding issue (chair of governors.)" if you suspect fgm, what do you do? (Teachers call the police themselves.)

Everything on KCSIE has come about due to specific instances of safeguarding failures where investigators could pin point where children fell through the loopholes. The website "Everyone's invited" triggered insertion of key guidance around sexual assault in schools, including primary.

Political capture means the dfe / gov doesn't yet see/ agree that social and medical transition of children is a safeguarding issue and currently would lead to extra protection for those pupils to safeguard against bullying.

We do buckets on online harms; this is eerily absent there too.