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Telegraph interview with Mumsnet founder

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TheNoWord · 07/01/2023 07:30

Some interesting comments about this board:

”“I wish it wasn’t an issue that created so much anger. For me, if you want to choose to be a woman, with all the disadvantages that entails, I’m going to embrace you. But biologically is a trans woman the same as a woman? I would say no.”

“There’s this tension because both sides are rightly worried about safety. Trans women feel they are not safe in male spaces because of male violence [if they’re forced, for example, to use male lavatories] and cis [heterosexual] women are nervous about that because they think this might be exploited by violent males. It gets my goat that women – and trans women are included – live with this spectre of male violence and no one politically or otherwise seems to saying: ‘this is the real issue.’”

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/mumsnet-founder-users-have-extraordinarily-strong-vitriolic/

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AlliwantforChristmasisgu · 07/01/2023 08:22

Hmmph. It is not just about safety. It is also about dignity, privacy and reality. Be Kind doesn’t help you with the hard decisions because kind is directional - you can’t be ‘kind’ to both sides at once.

So hospital wards, prisons, ability to choose single sex carers, strip searches by a member of the same sex - you have to make a decision there.

However - we all owe this site a lot.

Whyjustwhy123 · 07/01/2023 08:18

Just read more of the article. Will give her the respect that she is firm about not pulling this forum against what I imagine was forceful criticism

Whyjustwhy123 · 07/01/2023 08:14

Did she use cis? Shame if so considering how the many women on this forum find the expression so offensive. I would hope she would place her support towards those who use her website so much.

Wallowingwendy · 07/01/2023 08:08

Surely she doesn't mean that cis=heterosexual? Lesbian women also fear and experience male violence.

picklemewalnuts · 07/01/2023 08:05

That sounds like an incredibly carefully crafted attempt to sit on a fence. But the splinters up her arse achieve nothing except demonstrate cowardice. Sorry not sorry

MetaDaughter · 07/01/2023 07:37

Nope. Not signing up to The Telegraph. 3 free months doesn’t make up for the disgustingly vicious headline they’ve chosen for that article.