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First non-binary priest in C of E

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inkjet · 02/01/2023 20:27

uk.news.yahoo.com/church-england-first-non-binary-161400908.html

They describe themselves as non-binary and genderqueer but also say that the phrase “from maleness to femaleness” in Genesis provoked an epiphany.

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picklemewalnuts · 03/01/2023 16:49

Adam Ant. Full stop.

WerewolvesAtMidnight · 03/01/2023 16:48

goldismything · 03/01/2023 16:31

Ah yes boy George snd marylin. Used to be called gender benders to my fathers fury! My first boyfriend wore eye liner. Suited him. I had hair like Angie from Eastenders Confused

I had hair like Madonna a la Desperately Seeking Susan, permed with the top bit swept in with a scarf, wrapped in a bow on top of my head. I still maintain that was a good look, extremely easy to look after, and I'm looking forward to it eventually coming back 😆 I was also partial to guys in guy liner, it makes their eyes look sexy. Yes. Nods.

Wanders off to see if I can persuade partner to let me um 'practice' on him for later 🤫

picklemewalnuts · 03/01/2023 16:45

I've seen a photo of the chap wearing eyeshadow in another article. I hate to be shallow, but that's rubbish use of eyeshadow. I know a lot of vicars. The women are still battling the whole 'lady vicar' and 'never kissed a woman in a dog collar' type misogyny. Still having to outperform mediocre men. They certainly wouldn't be well received if they wore eyeshadow like that.

It feels like a woman wearing a fake moustache to get people to take her seriously. Counter productive.

WerewolvesAtMidnight · 03/01/2023 16:37

IWannaBeInTheRoomWhereItHappens · 03/01/2023 14:53

This person is not the first non binary C of E priest. I know one, they just happen to not be attention seeking or talk about eyeshadow. The one I know is very down to earth (and FTNB)

Seems a little unfair that this priest has now 'claimed' that 'honour', although to be fair to them they did say to their knowledge, is your friend completely out within the CofE community? I guess your friend wouldn't have wanted the publicity anyway though which is fair enough, I completely understand that feeling. I personally wouldn't want either, no matter what I was 'famous' for.

FTNB female to non binary? I hadn't come across that one until I googled it, thanks this thread really is a learning process!

goldismything · 03/01/2023 16:31

Ah yes boy George snd marylin. Used to be called gender benders to my fathers fury! My first boyfriend wore eye liner. Suited him. I had hair like Angie from Eastenders Confused

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:26

Sherries

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:26

And i remember my granny laughing after a good few cherries with mutters of not in my day but no one had an issue with his someone looked or dressed.

I just don't get it

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:24

And this

First non-binary priest in C of E
Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:22

I mean we lived through this era

First non-binary priest in C of E
Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:18

Oh what we're we thinking?

goldismything · 03/01/2023 16:17

Boiled

Yes I completely see your points. Very glad to have. Been a teen when I was to b honest. Shit I did have a perm! :)

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:01

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:52

That was a joke by the way boiled I bet you have lived :)

And then some

Abhannmor · 03/01/2023 16:01

Well it's as kinky as you want it to be @goldismything !

And @Boiledbeetle is a worthy success to the Bard himself

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:00

@goldismything I think, and I don't know your age, but a lot of us here seem to be of an era where it was acceptable, True Romantics etc and Madonna! And perms!

But you could actually truly be you but in the body, the only body, you were ever going to have. And most people didn't have a problem. But our choices didn't impact on anyone's else's lives or their rights. And yes there are those that fell into the tiny amount of people that felt wrong. The same tiny amount that had existed in each generation. That truly had to change as much as they could in order to survive their life.

So why suddenly are we seeing this in numbers that statistically dont make sense.

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:52

That was a joke by the way boiled I bet you have lived :)

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:50

Boiled.

You may be right but teenagers and young people always have angst. I think the number of people who really and truly feel they are in the wrong body into adult hood is actually tiny. It's really important I think to allow especially youngsters to explore and develop without taking every thing they say and feel as how they will feel aged 25! We don't do that in any other way apart from this.

But I respect your views. However If you think a bottom slap is kinky you havnt really lived.

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 15:48

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 15:42

And what?

🙄😑

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 15:42

ReunitedThorns · 03/01/2023 14:34

And?

And what?

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 15:33

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:23

I don't want to offend and would never say this to the persons face or indeed behind their back this is anonymous but my reaction to all this non binary/queer/gender fluid stuff is a faint sigh snd lovely dear now can we not talk about this as I am not interested. I love cocks myself, well one in particular, I also quite like makeup having my nails done having dh spank my bottom snd football but I guess you are not interested either.

So let's keep it all to ourselves shall we? Jolly good.

I know I honesty think God you'll look back at this in 30 years going on god I can't show my kids what an idiot I was. I get that some people out there are truly gong through an awful time. Existing in a body and mind that doesn't feel right must be excruciating at times and I hope that they mange to find as much peace and happiness as they can achieve but yeah okay that b I'm really not wanting tho know whilst I pack my shopping.

I remember my teenage and early twenties and thank God there is virtually no record of it to haunt me.

and you...kinky!

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:23

I don't want to offend and would never say this to the persons face or indeed behind their back this is anonymous but my reaction to all this non binary/queer/gender fluid stuff is a faint sigh snd lovely dear now can we not talk about this as I am not interested. I love cocks myself, well one in particular, I also quite like makeup having my nails done having dh spank my bottom snd football but I guess you are not interested either.

So let's keep it all to ourselves shall we? Jolly good.

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 14:54

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 03/01/2023 14:46

I find non binary females the most annoying it's like they are saying look at me I'm better than you, I'm not going to be a woman and all the shit that comes with it. They are cowards
Why? Why are they coward's? Seriously, how does how they identify have any bearing on me?!
It doesn't! It's literally nothing to do with me, let them have at it.
I know me.
If you think they're thinking they're better than you, (which they really probably don't give a shit about and if they do, so what ?!) If you feeling insecure or thinking that someone else thinks they're better than you, surely that's your issue to deal with, not theirs?!

Now I always feel for them, I imagine it's not the greatest of times in their heads for a lot of them, and if they are happier defining themselves as that then fine It's their life as long as their need to define themselves that way had no bearing or intrusion on my life then live and let live.

IWannaBeInTheRoomWhereItHappens · 03/01/2023 14:53

This person is not the first non binary C of E priest. I know one, they just happen to not be attention seeking or talk about eyeshadow. The one I know is very down to earth (and FTNB)

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 03/01/2023 14:46

I find non binary females the most annoying it's like they are saying look at me I'm better than you, I'm not going to be a woman and all the shit that comes with it. They are cowards
Why? Why are they coward's? Seriously, how does how they identify have any bearing on me?!
It doesn't! It's literally nothing to do with me, let them have at it.
I know me.
If you think they're thinking they're better than you, (which they really probably don't give a shit about and if they do, so what ?!) If you feeling insecure or thinking that someone else thinks they're better than you, surely that's your issue to deal with, not theirs?!

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 14:44

Justme56 · 03/01/2023 00:51

Was there not a Bingo in the Banana Splits. The drummer - a gorilla? Used to love the theme tune!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XMl6HnhFFIA

I've never linked to you tube before so I'm not sure if this will work

ReunitedThorns · 03/01/2023 14:34

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 10:36

Reported

And?