First non-binary priest in C of E

@Poonicorn

'And the non-binary refers to people rejecting male and female stereotypes. So if you are a non-non-binary female (ie a binary female) the assumption is that you must conform to female stereotypes. Part of the reason why gender ideology is so regressive.'

I wouldn't say being non binary is rejecting stereotypes, or that they assume binary people must conform to stereotypes

Doing what. You were 7. ? What was he doing just chit chatting to you in assembly?

awesome work

I don't know much about the bible, I know people use it to bolster up their negativity against gay people, gay marriage and all sorts of other things. I believe there's something about not eating shellfish?! I'd hoped time had moved on.

It's funny that he/she says wives of trans people should accept his/her as the person he/she is - while they can't.

Can't help thinking he/she is just looking for publicity.

How do you know that other than the possibly half hour talking to the journalist, they aren't out doing all sorts of 'good works' within their community. Our local priest used to come to my assemblies when I spent a year in a CE infant school when I was 7, and was heavily involved in the community (in senior school one of my teachers happened to be his wife) I imagine they still do similar.

Well I think the article is about the C of E having the first out non binary priest so obviously whoever wrote the article thought it was newsworthy enough to write it. Note they have been out for seven years, it's not new, and they are a priest not a vicar.

Always strikes me as weird when strong believers, people sworn to the service of God, learned in Bible and sworn to teach it to their congregation, decided that they know better than the One they respect above all.

Genesis 1:27

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

Or maybe if you believe so deeply in one unprovable thing, with its dogma and catechism, it is easier to transfer or widen that belief to another.

That analogy doesn't work though. To be non-binary there must first be a binary. Being grey isn't being non-black and non-white. Because grey isn't the opposite of black or white.

And the non-binary refers to people rejecting male and female stereotypes. So if you are a non-non-binary female (ie a binary female) the assumption is that you must conform to female stereotypes. Part of the reason why gender ideology is so regressive.

Shouldn5 he be out doing good works instead of whinging on about his binary or whatever

honest to god them men

Call me a spoil sport but it really is beyond me why it's an 'epiphany' to decide to change your name to 'Bingo' and wear eye shadow, and why anything in this article warrants being in the news. Has no one found an image of Jesus in a burnt crumpet this week? Good luck to Vicar Bingo I truly hope the discovery of their non binary self makes them more happy than simply being loved by their family and being a good vicar to their congregation.

I've never met any phalli in the women's toilets, if there are any they would be inside a cubicle. I give you I would be surprised to meet one in a communal changing room but again I tend to prefer ones with cubicles.

Beefy Bingham? I think he was the one that organised the infamous talent show for which audience's boredom 'passed beyond mere words and began to introduce the vegetable motive'.

I suspect that he (and Bertie) would have seen eyeshadow as a quirk of personality rather than some sort of navel gazing introspection.

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So did my autocorrect!

I do love those books, if written now I could just imagine.

There's nothing wrong with your colleague wanting to feel more comfortable. It's nice they felt comfortable enough to share that with you, I don't think that makes them 'insane' but perhaps they should have tested out your views first before sharing something that made you feel that way.

Haha I think phalluses (phalli?) do tend to be illogical,

especially you when you discover one in the women's toilets

A colleague is non binary and told me it's because they sometimes feel uncomfortable being a woman

Does this colleague not realise that by that description every woman everywhere is therefore non binary?

I love PG Wodehouse. When the modern world becomes too insane, there's nothing quite like escaping to Blandings Castle. I suspect this year I may have to visit quite frequently.

Berlin Woooster has a vicar friend, name escapes me, who was a boxing blue at Oxford and has a parish in the east end of London. In the days when the east end was the East End, iyswim. I do wonder what the boxing vicar's views on Jesus loving sparkly eye shadow might have been.

Annoyingly I do actually already own them, but they are on the bookcase in what used to be the dining room but is currently identifying the Doom Room (like a doom box on steroids)

I'm just debating whether it's easier to sort and make a path to them or just buy them again.

Especially as it Wodehouse so that means its right at the back end of the room. I'm not planning on getting to see that again until at least next new year! The one after it i don't get off mumsnet.

I don't think they are assuming everyone else is binary. To borrow a phrase from earlier in the thread, it was something around to be be grey there has to be black and white. Well okay let's say someone works out somehow they are a particular shade of grey. Where in that working out have they assumed everyone else is either black or white? Surely it's more likely we are all shades of grey but those of us that are not non binary are comfortable enough being called black or white cos it's near enough, or we are comfortable about the bits that don't exactly align.

Haha I think phalluses (phalli?) do tend to be illogical, that's probably where the phrase 'thinking with their d*ck' comes from. No offence to anyone here with a phallus!

Non binary is the most infuriating nonsense. A colleague is non binary and told me it's because they sometimes feel uncomfortable being a woman. As if we all walk around feeling comfortable in our skin all the time or even should feel comfortable all the time (no I don't think we should). This pursuit of some kind of perfection in life is driving people insane.

Bingo Little's given name is Richard and he was at Prep school and Eton with Bertie.

I would definitely recommend the books - they really are very funny. PG Wodehouse has a way of writing a very amusing phrase - 'well stamped sandwich' is one that sticks in my mind! He started off as a writer for School Boy Magazines and there's a definite whiff of school boy humour throughout the books.

The whole ideology is an illogical phallacy.

I so read that as illogical phallus.