NHS - Women’s rights compromised by gender ideology

You're wasting your time explaining; that was a 'squirrel!' attempt to stop women saying inconvenient truths out loud. Like the 'you can't protest about women being raped in prisons until you've sorted out x, y and z to my satisfaction' thing which is an oh so classic MRA line. And my current favourite piece of batshittery: 'if you don't think women should be raped by serious sex offender men in prisons, then the answer is that no prisons should exist at all in this fantasy I've just sniffed off a piece of someone else's twitter feed'

There is honestly less and less point in trying to rationally engage with people high on this new age D&D game. The important people to speak to are MPs and those making policy, and 'educate' them about critical thinking, actual evidence, and not blindly believing that everyone who makes big eyes and tells sad anecdotes and mentions statistics a lot is (shock horror) in good faith and telling the truth.

I am shouting about that. The NHS is being privatized by stealth by the Tories- including pink ones like T. Blair who introduced the Tory Public Finance Initiative, which has led to crippling costs.

Hussain spoke at a West Yorks Police event on hate crime, apparently.

mobile.twitter.com/CDP1882/status/1609980055450517505

the authority was in 'denial' and warped by a culture of bullying, sexism and cover-ups

JFC

I thought I couldn't be more shocked, but I am floored by this - this is Health Education England's National Diversity, Inclusion & Participation Manager, Mahroof Hussain:

www.gbnews.uk/news/revealed-rotherham-rape-gangs-cover-up-councillor-holds-senior-diversity-and-inclusion-nhs-role/416258

A former Labour Party politician who resigned his cabinet position at Rotherham Council in 2015 amid reports that he 'pushed back' discussions on the ethnicity of grooming gangs now works as a senior diversity and inclusion manager in a major NHS body, GB News can reveal.
Mahroof Hussain was embroiled in the Rotherham grooming gangs scandal in 2015 when Dame Louise Casey’s review into the council named him and went on to conclude that the authority was in 'denial' and warped by a culture of bullying, sexism and cover-ups.

Is a pro-rape agenda actually a job requirement in senior NHS diversity roles??!

As for that silly and childish term 'ally' - it's the language of the playground and student councils, and it means 'I am taking sides'. It has no place in public services that rely upon impartiality and values not bogged down in playground gang politics and using others to express yourself.

This! The term ally implies a war from the off. It really doesn’t seem professional to be using it in relation to political issues in public services. Surely those of us who work in public services should be politically impartial, neutral rather than allying with any particular side.

Have you seen this one? See if you can tell which part of the UK has recently voted away women's rights:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4706547-i-think-weve-located-the-angriest-women-on-tef-island?page=8&reply=122736934

@TheYummyPatler *A medically trained clinician who actually believes they have actually changed sex on issue of a GRC is a problem and probably shouldn’t be allowed to treat any patients on the basis that their understanding of human biology is fucked." In the States Rachel Levine now sets policy with even greater reach...

I know someone who has refused surgery because of the NHS mixed sex ward/ care policy as she needs to be sure intimate care and her ward will be female only- this NHS policy is clearly negatively affecting vulnerable women across the country.
Labour Women's declaration have written a twitter thread about this
twitter.com/LabWomenDec/status/1609842517486309378?cxt=HHwWhMC88bDPp9csAAAA

and so has the writer of the report eg linking to an FOI response from NHS England
twitter.com/specalot

Oh dear. Does the reality of women speaking out about women's rights bring you out in a rash?

Bless.

Jesus, look at the map on that petition - I guess Scotland has had enough.

Thanks, noted.

NHS also compromised with regards to safeguarding children. Psychiatry is a captured profession encouraging children in a belief that they are ‘born in the wrong bodies’ rather than supporting them to accept the healthy bodies they were born with.

Kudos to Nimco Ali for being so clear. More sunlight

Thank you for all the links. So much distress caused by deliberate conflation of sex and gender and lack of clarity in the Equality Act.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=1

TheYummyPatler · Today 09:02

This is a policy that can only benefit those whose motives are problematic. The majority of HCPs would (and should) want to support their patients’ dignity, and that means stepping aside when they know a patient does not want to be treated by someone if their sex.

Well said, and needs repeating and sharing.

I do not see that a HCP who uses a GRC to insist on their access to handle a patient who has specifically requested same sex care (and has therefore obvious reasons for doing so) is insisting on anything less than intentional assault. And as we know, a patient in placed in this awful position, is likely to be exposed to the coercion of submit to this assault or all care will be withdrawn.

It is wicked. I do not use that word lightly.

As for that silly and childish term 'ally' - it's the language of the playground and student councils, and it means 'I am taking sides'. It has no place in public services that rely upon impartiality and values not bogged down in playground gang politics and using others to express yourself.

Not to take anything away from Nimco Ali, but the report was written by Lottie Moore, a brilliant young woman at Policy Exchange. Nimco wrote the foreword but credit to Lottie for the bulk of the work.

The very first reply and it's full of whataboutery.

F. Write 100 lines: "must do better".

TheYummyPatler · Today 09:02

This is a policy that can only benefit those whose motives are problematic. The majority of HCPs would (and should) want to support their patients’ dignity, and that means stepping aside when they know a patient does not want to be treated by someone if their sex.

I think you've put that very well indeed.

IDK, Jamie Wallis.?

Who is taking Iver from Nimco Ali of she is the outgoing tzar?

I have seen a glimmer of hope. The NHS online form for 111 only asks for sex at birth, and states that online triage needs sex not gender identity. If you’re not comfortable with disclosing that, you can call 111, but there is no room on the form for gender identity.

Progress?

Thank you for this thread OP and thank you to Nimco Ali if she is reading this. I too am sad to see her go from her post.

I really think that we need to repeal the GRA, it is ludicrous the NHS is saying that women should be fine with receiving care from someone with a GRC for one thing how could anyone know since it is illegal to ask or to disclose that someone has one. As previously stated there is no requirement to have had full genital surgery, many people will know that surgical removal of body parts doesn’t anyway alter the sex of the person.

I think we must get the GRA repealed to end the legal fiction which will hopefully free us up to end the fiction more widely in institutions.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4688427-repeal-the-gra?page=1