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Model response to a dilemma for women in the left-right storm (really?)

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IwantToRetire · 01/01/2023 19:10

So not satisfied with appropriating the work, ideas and campaigning of one woman and many active supporters, some complete set of nobody film makers have taken it upon themselves to school us silly air heads on how to behave and who to talk to.

Leaving aside the smug condescension of believing the have the right to tell us how to behave, this is a perfect example of where complete nobodies who exploit other people to further their own media career, then assume they are as politically relevant and analytically acute as actual activists.

kaygreen.blog/2022/12/31/model-response-to-a-dilemma-for-women-in-the-left-right-storm/

This is the problem with the media at the moment, presenters and film makers who are just the vehicle to get voices and ideas heard, then think they are entitled to become the spokes person.

Apart from anything else, did these nupties even think maybe we should ask those who the film was actually about. I know they would, having been hand selected as the appropriately politically aligned voices, also refused, but even within the unethical world of these self promoters, do they really think they take precedence.

But it does gives us a clear idea of their moral compass and how they felt able to bandwagon of others work and go to extreme lengths to make sure they are never referred to or acknowledged.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 01/01/2023 20:25

cor, some people do take themselves ever so seriously don't they? I don't think I've ever assumed that me speaking to someone would confer legitimacy on them.

it's not the choice I would make, but it's their movie and their decision

luckily there are other women who will speak to anyone and everyone

wouldn't it be nice if those women didn't get a load of shit?

donquixotedelamancha · 01/01/2023 20:24

So not satisfied with appropriating the work, ideas and campaigning of one woman

Who's work and ideas is the documentary appropriating? It's mostly interviews around the the idea of women's sex based rights, how can it be taking one person's work?

Leaving aside the smug condescension of believing the have the right to tell us how to behave

Nothing about that statement told women how to behave. It was about why they declined an interview and Kay Green agreeing.

Apart from anything else, did these nupties even think maybe we should ask those who the film was actually about.

If Fox want to interview the subjects of the documentary they can ask and those people can decline or accept as they choose. I don't think documentary makers should go to interviews based on what their subjects tell them to do.

Your OP appears needlessly combative about a documentary covering a subject I think you support and which has been well received. What context am I missing please?

ResisterRex · 01/01/2023 20:23

Yes I read it. And I had already read it on SM. But there's no evidence put forward that Fox is a political project. Maybe it is, but they've just given an opinion with no supporting evidence. I think if you're going to say you're not doing it for political purity, you've got to anchor that in hard evidence. Otherwise it's just opinions.

Floisme · 01/01/2023 20:22

Ok but who are they talking to instead? Guardian? BBC? Independent? Pink News? Novara Media?

donquixotedelamancha · 01/01/2023 20:17

I thought declining was bizarre. Would the women (and therefore indirectly, the children of those women) who watch Fox, not also benefit from hearing about these issues? Or is the message only good for some parts of society?

Their explanation as to why they made that choice is towards the bottom of the post in OP's link. They address the point you make.

ResisterRex · 01/01/2023 20:03

I thought declining was bizarre. Would the women (and therefore indirectly, the children of those women) who watch Fox, not also benefit from hearing about these issues? Or is the message only good for some parts of society?

In the UK at least, I don't recall seeing such moral dilemmas playing out among Stonewall, GIRES, Mermaids, Gendered Intelligence et al about working with the Tories and LDs, then the Tories.

Apparently it's only left wing women who have to stick to, and be judged by, rules that the TRAs definitely don't. Truly strange.

Floisme · 01/01/2023 19:28

Fair enough, I assume they've got an interview with Owen Jones or Zoe Williams instead.

princessleah1 · 01/01/2023 19:21

Why are you so cross? It seems perfectly reasonable. Some people will go on Fox News, others will decline, for the reasons set out. L

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