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Model response to a dilemma for women in the left-right storm (really?)

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IwantToRetire · 01/01/2023 19:10

So not satisfied with appropriating the work, ideas and campaigning of one woman and many active supporters, some complete set of nobody film makers have taken it upon themselves to school us silly air heads on how to behave and who to talk to.

Leaving aside the smug condescension of believing the have the right to tell us how to behave, this is a perfect example of where complete nobodies who exploit other people to further their own media career, then assume they are as politically relevant and analytically acute as actual activists.

kaygreen.blog/2022/12/31/model-response-to-a-dilemma-for-women-in-the-left-right-storm/

This is the problem with the media at the moment, presenters and film makers who are just the vehicle to get voices and ideas heard, then think they are entitled to become the spokes person.

Apart from anything else, did these nupties even think maybe we should ask those who the film was actually about. I know they would, having been hand selected as the appropriately politically aligned voices, also refused, but even within the unethical world of these self promoters, do they really think they take precedence.

But it does gives us a clear idea of their moral compass and how they felt able to bandwagon of others work and go to extreme lengths to make sure they are never referred to or acknowledged.

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AlisonDonut · 03/01/2023 11:07

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:26

Yes, it’s quiet.

It wasn't quiet. If it was we'd not know about it.

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 11:06

I post this because it seems to be the next stage in engagement.

Yes, the next stage according to you is more personal attacks by you; which btw, I have reported.

AlisonDonut · 03/01/2023 11:05

Outside of the purity spiralling versus Fox news stuff, who is this film for if not for a wider audience than people that already know what is going on?

Isn't that the whole point of marketing? I am genuinely confused what the point of making it is. Why bother in the first place?

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 11:03

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Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 11:02

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 11:00

No. It isn't quiet.

It is quieter than the statement issued. Quiet is not posting on social media at all about it.

You can really try to twist it for all you like. If they were intending it to be just 'a quiet update' then they were posting in exactly the wrong place.

It’s not “twisting” to have a different opinion on what is quiet or not. Quiet is a subjective measure. There is no need to get nasty about perfectly valid different opinions.

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 11:00

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:26

Yes, it’s quiet.

No. It isn't quiet.

It is quieter than the statement issued. Quiet is not posting on social media at all about it.

You can really try to twist it for all you like. If they were intending it to be just 'a quiet update' then they were posting in exactly the wrong place.

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:56

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Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:55

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 03/01/2023 10:46

For what it’s worth, I was not discrediting the information, I was pointing out rightly that the source of the information, Twitter, is suspect as it has a poor reputation.

Is this like when anything from right wing media sources is discredited because it's from right wing media sources?

Anyway, the opinion or viewpoint was shared on Twitter but the source was the actual research.

There was no source referenced or linked in the comment I responded to.
This is the comment I responded to:
I saw on Twitter, but don't have a screenshot that 40% of Tucker's viewers are democrats. I think this is missed opportunity.

to which I replied
Id take that with a grain of salt tbh. Twitter is the most notorious fake news hub on the planet, with Facebook a close second.’

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Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:51

Is this like when anything from right wing media sources is discredited because it's from right wing media sources?

Not at all alike.
www.science.org/content/article/fake-news-spreads-faster-true-news-twitter-thanks-people-not-bots

beastlyslumber · 03/01/2023 10:49

Whatever. They were virtue signalling, thinking they'd gain TRA and leftist approval. Rather than talking to as many women as possible, they decided to keep talking only to TRAs and their friends.

I think they were very lucky to get invited onto mainstream media at all, given the poor quality of the film they made. To be fair, I only watched a few minutes of it because it was so boring - I'm surprised that they got anyone to pay attention to it, but completely dumbfounded that they then refused that attention and refused the chance to talk to millions of women in the states and beyond about their film. Absolutely beggars belief.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 03/01/2023 10:46

For what it’s worth, I was not discrediting the information, I was pointing out rightly that the source of the information, Twitter, is suspect as it has a poor reputation.

Is this like when anything from right wing media sources is discredited because it's from right wing media sources?

Anyway, the opinion or viewpoint was shared on Twitter but the source was the actual research.

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2023 10:26

I was pointing out rightly that the source of the information, Twitter, is suspect as it has a poor reputation.

Which social media channel doesn't spread fake news? Twitter is a communication platform driven by its users.

They all do to different extents. Some SM companies are better at seeking out and deleting fake news than other SM companies. But sadly too many people do not realise this or think that they can tell the difference between real news and fake news on sight alone.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2023 10:26

I was pointing out rightly that the source of the information, Twitter, is suspect as it has a poor reputation.

Which social media channel doesn't spread fake news? Twitter is a communication platform driven by its users.

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:26

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:22

Just updating, if good marketers cannot make a statement with two sentences they are failing at communication. It is absurd to think two sentences announcing an action is not making a song and dance about it - it is just a quieter song and dance!

Yes, it’s quiet.

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:25

ResisterRex · 03/01/2023 10:23

And updating what? A running commentary on their private emails?

Just updating! Yes Resister that is obviously it!

Onnabugeisha · 03/01/2023 10:24

@Helleofabore

Backtracking are we? First you gaslight me by trying to claim you weren’t calling me lazy when I called you out on it:
Did you even bother to read my post or just vainly assumed it was to thwart you?

And now you’re showing your true colours by admitting you were calling me lazy:
And you were the only person saying ‘Id take that with a grain of salt tbh. Twitter is the most notorious fake news hub on the planet, with Facebook a close second.’ It was lazy. You didn’t go and check whether it was true. You tried to discredit the information though.

For what it’s worth, I was not discrediting the information, I was pointing out rightly that the source of the information, Twitter, is suspect as it has a poor reputation. Which is accurate and a fact.

It’s concerning really that you can’t tell the difference between suspect sources and suspect information.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2023 10:24

Exactly. Why was this "update" necessary, if not to virtue signal?

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:24

Now if it was two sentences in a newsletter to only a closed group of people, you would have a point.

ResisterRex · 03/01/2023 10:23

And updating what? A running commentary on their private emails?

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:22

Just updating, if good marketers cannot make a statement with two sentences they are failing at communication. It is absurd to think two sentences announcing an action is not making a song and dance about it - it is just a quieter song and dance!

ResisterRex · 03/01/2023 10:21

Their account isn't locked. It's public.

Even if it was, once you make private communications known to others, you've lost control over it.

Prior to making it public, "only" 365k other accounts knew about it.

Sorry but this line does not and will never wash.

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 03/01/2023 10:19

I think a two sentence update is quietly turning down the offer. We will have to agree to disagree on that. You think a two sentence update is making a virtue signalling song and dance…ok, that’s your right to think that.

Quietly turning it down would be to turn it down and not announce it on Twitter. It's not a song and dance but it is virtue signalling. The song and dance is their full statement.

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:18

Just updating, Twitter posts on a publicly open account get many more views than just the accounts followers. That is what social media is about !

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:18

Just updating, Twitter posts on a publicly open account get many more views than just the accounts followers. That is what social media is about !

Helleofabore · 03/01/2023 10:16

Just updating. Two sentences make just as much difference as two paragraphs or more.

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