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I don't have a gender because I refuse to believe in gender woo. But I'm not gender non conforming. What am I?

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 00:13

Genderfree? I'm not agender or non binary as that implies believing in gender.

In times of old I would have described myself as a Woman, but as non biological women/ transwomen are now women I no longer want to use that word

Trans have spoilt the sex based meaning ot once had.

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:38

Y'all chill out?

I will continue to call myself a woman but I object to how the meaning is changing.. and it is.

But I've seem that to continue to use the word to mean adult human female is all we can do to prevent erasure.
I'm also a person. Nowt wrong with that?

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:33

NalaNana · 31/12/2022 01:29

So you refuse to be identified as a woman but want to be recognised for your biological sex, which would make you...a woman? 🤔 do you intend to use women's spaces now you don't believe yourself to be a woman? 😂 plenty of gender free/neutral toilets around in certain places which might suit you nicely!

I generally use the disabled. I have 2 disabilities and like my own space

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:32

ToBeOrNotToBee · 31/12/2022 01:15

I'm the same. I have no gender identity. I love that according to Stonewall et al this makes me part of the LGBTXYZ 🤡
I am a woman because I'm an adult human female.
That's it.

Yes, I love this bit too.
You can join the special club, if only not seriously.

I asked the EDI manager at work if I'd have to put pronouns in emails as I'm genderfree.

She replied thanking me for disclosing my identity and of course not if it made me uncomfortable.

You think a bog standard woman would get that?

I.play with it, I don't take it too seriously

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NalaNana · 31/12/2022 01:29

So you refuse to be identified as a woman but want to be recognised for your biological sex, which would make you...a woman? 🤔 do you intend to use women's spaces now you don't believe yourself to be a woman? 😂 plenty of gender free/neutral toilets around in certain places which might suit you nicely!

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/12/2022 01:26

Ivyonafence · 31/12/2022 00:55

@Metabigot nor you.

But if this garbage goes unchallenged it can be even more difficult for already marginalised people to exist in online spaces.

God bless.

You mean marginalised people like female-bodied people? People who have been disempowered socially, politically and financially for centuries in almost all cultures, who even today still attract bigoted sexual abuse online when they speak out about the reality of what female people historically and currently experience, and are now seeing even their own name appropriated by the sex that abuses and disempowers them, and having their own existence redefined for them by people who have never lived it with any protest they raise to that dismissed as bigotry?

Those marginalised people?

Too right that garbage should be challenged.

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:23

Not at all!

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:21

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:21

Well I kind of reject the whole concept.

Me too, I was asking Dotcheck .

My apologies.

I hope ypu didn't mind me responding

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:21

Well I kind of reject the whole concept.

Me too, I was asking Dotcheck .

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:19

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:16

Which gender stereotypes do you think are useful?

Well I kind of reject the whole concept.

Just be yourselves people

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:16

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

Which gender stereotypes do you think are useful?

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:16

I'm also offended by this you can change sex shit when I went blind at 36w pregnant due to my sex. Thankfully recovered.

But believe me if I could have genuinely changed sex for 9 months with my husband I would have.
Biggest risk of my life
( pre existing condition)

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ToBeOrNotToBee · 31/12/2022 01:15

I'm the same. I have no gender identity. I love that according to Stonewall et al this makes me part of the LGBTXYZ 🤡
I am a woman because I'm an adult human female.
That's it.

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:14

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

The very existence of them ... that women should behave in any particular way just because of being female.

ExhaustedFlamingo · 31/12/2022 01:14

If you reject current gender ideology, describing yourself as gender-free - or any variant of that - simply bumps up the numbers for the "other side" and will have the opposite effect of what you want. It implies that you agree with the gender woo and have adopted a different identity to your sex.

Continue to call yourself a woman, because that is your sex, and that is what you are. If asked your gender, you could opt for the box that says "prefer not to say".

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:13

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

All of them
I'm anti stereotypes in general.

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Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:12

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

No! I don't want a gender! I want to be recognised for my biological sex!

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:12

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

No, that's your sex.

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:11

If you have a fanjo your gender is female? ConfusedGrin

Dotcheck · 31/12/2022 01:11

What ‘gender stereotypes’ do you reject?

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:09

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:08

What's 'a gender'?

Everyone has a sex, male or female (yes, people with DSDs included).

We live in a world where there are various 'gender stereotypes' imposed, or 'gendered roles'. These vary with time and culture, they're not absolutes.

We may conform to some, all, or none of these stereotypes and roles but that doesn't mean we 'have a gender'

That's my entire point

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ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2022 01:08

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:04

@Metabigot why don't you have a gender

What's 'a gender'?

Everyone has a sex, male or female (yes, people with DSDs included).

We live in a world where there are various 'gender stereotypes' imposed, or 'gendered roles'. These vary with time and culture, they're not absolutes.

We may conform to some, all, or none of these stereotypes and roles but that doesn't mean we 'have a gender'

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:07

different from your sex

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:06

why don't you have a gender

What's a gender, where is it located and how can it be difficult from your sex?

Metabigot · 31/12/2022 01:06

CallieQ · 31/12/2022 01:04

@Metabigot why don't you have a gender

Because I'm just me. I always have been. I don't need a gender to be me.

Yes I dress stereotypically female but that's the least of it. I just hate stereotypes.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/12/2022 01:05

Why? I'm sure it makes you feel better about yourself, @beachcitygirl, but what's the rationale? OP is trying to feel her way through the identity landscape.

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