How do you speak up without being called transphobic

It's because they are male* Sparklybutold*

We know it, they know it.

Everyone knows it.

It appears I may have been a bit too forthright in my live action EXAMPLE of what the poster was accusing us of doing everytime we accidentally misgender a transperson by turning the exact words we get thrown at us but thrown at the poster for using CIS in front of words.

There will come a day when we are once again free to not have to police our every thought and word, spoken and written and mumsnet will be free enough from online scrutiny and censor to let us speak freely.

Today is not that day it seems.

100%.

The sheer volume of ad homs is unpleasant and yes, intimidating, but it also reveals that this movement has no actual arguments behind it. It runs purely on manufactured emotionally manipulative narratives.

There's no logic, only 'you're a bad person, be a nice person, feel sorry for this person, hate this person'

Words are being deliberately re-engineered to mean new things.

To be 'transphobic' means to be a heretic, and to refuse to mouth the mantras of genderism.

EvilBee · Today 06:30
Safeguarding is attacking me for being a trans woman?

EvilBee I am interested in your experience.

Please could you give specific real life examples of these attacks?

Well there's a thread in Aibu right now with a poster not happy about men in a baby feeding room in a shop and in a changing room. No mention of trans whatsoever, but for one poster who has responded, the thread is apparently anti trans.
So yes literally anything can be transphobic.

The important thing to remember is that the trans rights movement is a men's rights movement, and they will do anything to shut you up. Spend half an hour on Twitter and you'll see all of the following accusations made against women: you're a transphobe, you're a bigot, you're a Nazi, you're a fascist, you're a homophobe, you're creepily obsessed with genitals*, you're ugly, you should be raped, you're too ugly to rape, etc etc etc ad nauseam. This is language that is designed to distress, frighten and intimidate, not just you, but other women who are put off speaking up because they don't want to be on the receiving end themselves. You can either let it intimidate you and stay silent or treat it as water off a duck's back and speak up. None of these accusations are anything to do with you, they're about the twisted, misogynistic minds of the person making the accusation.

• Every accusation is an admission.

Its become a meaningless term. Like blasphemy. It doesnt work when you dont actually believe in the religion

everything is transphobic. Even reality is transphobic.

OP you should start little things, small acts of rebellion. I tend not to bring the subject up myself but if someone else says something trans related I might say "I don't really agree with that" or "I am concerned that there is a conflict between trans rights and women's rights" or "I've read there are many feminists who have concerns and I think I agree with them" or "I just can't get behind males in women's sports" and then I change the subject rather than get into a heated debate. It is enough just to signal that you don't agree and you will probably start to feel that you are being true to yourself.

I don't use social media that is linked to friends and family for activism. If you want to tweet set up a separate account and use that so that you are not pissing off friends and family with your activism. I managed to estrange myself to one friend (of 25 years) by posting on SM that I thought JKR had a point (when she 1st tweeted) and this friend told me to f-off, blocked me and has not spoken to me since. Obviously most reasonable people will allow for a difference of opinion within a friendship and also some friends will agree with you. But there is always a small risk you will alienate some people.

But if you can't bring yourself to speak out you can do other things. Join WRN it may give you confidence to be in a local group. Write letters to your MP and other public people. Sign petitions. Support crowd funds of those who are being discriminated against. Set up a monthly subscription to Sex Matters. Throw as many virtual spanners into the works as you can on a regular basis. It all matters and it'll make you feel less helpless.

Hi @EvilBee, please may I ask you a question? It's not a trap, I'm not really on social media so not really getting both sides of the discussion.

In what you know of the trans community, do people tend to think that they have genuinely changed sex? Ie because of the hormones or operations. Or do trans people think of themselves as their original sex but more likely to "pass"?

I'm interested to be more informed as I don't currently understand the motivations involved. Thank you

Was just thinking the same thing. There was lots of anti gay stuff in the gutter press back then of course but I never saw any ' everything is homophobic ' comments.

As opposed to mad stories about loony left councils ' banning black bin bags shock horror - everything is racist these days !'

@Enterusername111333
Don't worry about being called transphobic. It is meaningless 99.9% of the time and is deployed to shut you up and make you too afraid or ashamed to question anything about this men's rights movement.
Chin up and carry on speaking up.

OP as you will have noticed, the word transphobe will be thrown around to shut women up. It has no meaning.
Once you speak up about biological reality, you will see how many people agree and think the gender ideology movement is nonsense and even dangerous.
I work for a very woke stonewall champion firm, but all those I have spoken to agree with me even if afraid to be open about it because of the power the trans activists hold.
Wishing you well

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OP I've disagreed openly with gender neutral toilets in schools, proposed gender neutral changing rooms in a gym (no single sex spaces) and those in shops.

Whatever you think or say, its transphobic to some people.

It might be best to start with what particular opinions you want to speak about. Is it about what is taught in schools? About sports? About the need for single-sex changing rooms?

My advice OP is to not give a fuck about being called transphobic. It's all they've got in response. That and hyperbole. It's being played out live on this thread.

Goodness me there are a lot of new visitors to this board who just don’t see men in women’s spaces as a problem

i wonder why they’re all here…..

@Enterusername111333 fwiw - I think Bee is demonstrating beautifully what tends to happen in this type of debate. I think women just need to breath near some type of TW and we will be called transphobes. The other day I was privvy to a discussion on cisprivelage. Utter bollocks of course, but another tactic used to fuel the #beekind brigade.

@EvilBee interesting how I took your mention of violence as actual physical violence? Was it? Or was it the fact there was a group of women discussing how gender ideology/terfdom impacts our health and spaces? Please clarify?

@Boiledbeetle ah BB - I need to take some inspiration from this. Loved what you did with ‘terf’ too. I didn't want to bring up the ‘cis’, but you were braver than I. Only the other day did I learn it's origin - fucking hell.

Not sure what you mean but I've used many many public toilets & not once have I encountered any man trying to use a womens toilet. I am nearing 60 & used many public conveniences all over the world - much more as I'm getting older I hasten to add!
Am sorry you've had this experience if it's negative.

So we are straight to the not-so subtle accusation that any dissent is the same as physical violence.

Tell me, how is the violent transphobe who physically assaults another human being the same as a woman who wants single sex services?

Telling women they’re as bad as those who commit violent assault because they want a single sex changing room won’t work forever. People know the difference.

FWIW posters here don’t advocate for violence towards trans people. And if a random drive by poster did it would be challenged. But don’t let the truth get in the way, eh?