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Woman mistaken for a man and challenged

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h2Oo · 29/12/2022 21:05

Okay, so I'd like some good old reasoning on this as I appreciate a lot of you are more insightful than me!

I believe men have 0 place in women's toilets, changing families or women only spaces.

But this tripped me up... what do I say to this? It popped up on twitter and I don't know what to argument would be

This woman was questioned because she looks too masculine. But she is indeed a biological woman through and through

www.itv.com/news/central/2022-12-26/cancer-survivor-challenged-at-public-toilets-after-being-mistaken-for-a-man

What is the answer? I just don't know

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DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 02:02

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:55

Yes it is. Unless you’re a police officer.

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Step away from the gin.

LK1972 · 30/12/2022 02:02

@EvilBee So women are tits and arse now? I thought we were just a feeling?

So complicated, this woman thing.

ofwarren · 30/12/2022 02:01

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:59

That’s not the reasoning.
In fact no one has reported an incidence where they have challenged a masculine presenting person and it has not been a GNC woman. It’s always been I’ve done it, and she was a woman and I apologised.

So, where are all these TW being successfully challenged and booted out?

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Here's one
4w.pub/brazil-trans-identified-man-violence/

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 02:01

Blister · 30/12/2022 01:59

Izzard

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Source? Who stopped Izzard from using the womens toilets?

Blister · 30/12/2022 02:00

Wi spa

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 30/12/2022 02:00

No harm done to you….you can’t speak for her
This

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 02:00

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Both are happening. 🤨

Blister · 30/12/2022 01:59

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:59

That’s not the reasoning.
In fact no one has reported an incidence where they have challenged a masculine presenting person and it has not been a GNC woman. It’s always been I’ve done it, and she was a woman and I apologised.

So, where are all these TW being successfully challenged and booted out?

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Izzard

LK1972 · 30/12/2022 01:59

Ok, apparently asking if someone is in the right toilet is against the law now?

'Policing by Vigilantes = citizens taking the law in their own hands or acting contrary to the law.

That’s what is happening.'

Are you for real @Onnabugeisha ?

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:59

Blister · 30/12/2022 01:55

Challenged women are upset so we have to let men into the ladies.

Perfect reasoning.

That’s not the reasoning.
In fact no one has reported an incidence where they have challenged a masculine presenting person and it has not been a GNC woman. It’s always been I’ve done it, and she was a woman and I apologised.

So, where are all these TW being successfully challenged and booted out?

EvilBee · 30/12/2022 01:58

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:53

What's the difference between a man and a transwoman?

Should someone have challenged the man who assaulted you, or just let him get on with it in case they offended someone?

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I mean my tits and arse may be a giveaway

WendelineTestaburger · 30/12/2022 01:58

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Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:56

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:53

What's the difference between a man and a transwoman?

Should someone have challenged the man who assaulted you, or just let him get on with it in case they offended someone?

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I don’t think they would have dared to, like other posters on here have said, the physically intimidating types don’t get challenged.

Blister · 30/12/2022 01:55

Challenged women are upset so we have to let men into the ladies.

Perfect reasoning.

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:55

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:54

No it's not, don't be ridiculous.

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Yes it is. Unless you’re a police officer.

skilpadde · 30/12/2022 01:55

It is a peculiar thing.

The original articles were in the local press on 5th/6th December with a photo clearly displaying the name badge, including they/them pronouns.

Now the details are appearing in the national press with a new spin, and the name badge curiously blanked out, almost as if it is inconvenient.

I hope that the person, having had a mastectomy due to cancer, is not being exploited by people who have a particular agenda.

LK1972 · 30/12/2022 01:55

EvilBee · 30/12/2022 01:54

Perhaps trans people could wear badges of some sort for you?

Perhaps men should use their own toilets?

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:54

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:53

What's the difference between a man and a transwoman?

Should someone have challenged the man who assaulted you, or just let him get on with it in case they offended someone?

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I thought your lot could tell in an instant…are you saying you cannot tell the difference between a cis-man and a transwoman?

LK1972 · 30/12/2022 01:54

Well, @Onnabugeisha , Tiffany, as they/them now prefers to be known, also wasn't wearing skirt or wigs, as these apparently make Tiffany feel 'inauthentic', so your 'I was assaulted by a man in the womens toilets….he didn’t need a skirt and wig to gain access.' makes fuck all sense.

EvilBee · 30/12/2022 01:54

Perhaps trans people could wear badges of some sort for you?

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:54

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:52

It’s not hyperbole.
Policing by Vigilantes = citizens taking the law in their own hands or acting contrary to the law.

That’s what is happening.

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No it's not, don't be ridiculous.

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:53

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:50

Was this a transwoman? If not, how is it even relevant? I was assaulted by a man in the womens toilets….he didn’t need a skirt and wig to gain access.

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What's the difference between a man and a transwoman?

Should someone have challenged the man who assaulted you, or just let him get on with it in case they offended someone?

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:53

DdraigGoch · 30/12/2022 01:51

If she said "not to worry", I would take that as an indication that I should not worry.

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Or more likely she’s just being polite so she can get away from you.

ofwarren · 30/12/2022 01:52

Onnabugeisha · 30/12/2022 01:48

No harm done to you….you can’t speak for her.

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She spoke for herself.
She came and chatted to me after she came out the toilets. A butch lesbian on a night out with a bunch of men.
She went in after my young child so I wanted to be certain she was female.
She was lovely and said she gets asked frequently and isn't bothered.

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