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Police investigate 'flasher' gender recognition reform protester

647 replies

IwantToRetire · 26/12/2022 18:36

While critics shouted “shame on you” at the MSPs. One woman lifted their skirt and showed what initially appeared to be her genitals.

The woman shouted, “if you are not going to be decent, I am going to be indecent.”

However, it later transpired that she had been wearing some form of fake pubic wig.

According to the Scotsman, police did not arrest the individual immediately, however, the force has since received complaints and enquiries are ongoing.

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-investigate-flasher-gender-recognition-140324522.html

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SueVineer · 26/12/2022 20:19

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/12/2022 20:14

She's says she's very happy to defend her actions in court if necessary.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xFoNnyZUo00

If it comes to that, the media will be all over it. She's articulate, funny and engaging. Bring. It. On.

I really hope they don’t. We have a huge number of serious issues that we need addressed at the moment. A narc with a fake Fanny is helping no one. Why doesn’t she join the other side - they like exposing themselves and looking like nutters in public.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 20:18

The only time i think ive been flashed was when i was in my late 30’s and went to butlins with two female friends for an 80’s weekend

a group of men yelled at us to get our attention and when we looked one of them had his penis in Bob the Builders hand

though i think I remember a similar incident with a Noddy towel 🤔

BoreOfWhabylon · 26/12/2022 20:14

She's says she's very happy to defend her actions in court if necessary.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xFoNnyZUo00

If it comes to that, the media will be all over it. She's articulate, funny and engaging. Bring. It. On.

Poundofflesh · 26/12/2022 20:14

I was sent my first dick pic by an adult male at 15 in the early days of msn. Was flashed for the first time at 11

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 20:14

A merkin isn’t your genitals- nor does it represent it anymore than a wig represents your head.

if an MRA slapped a furry piece over their cock and displayed that there would still be no crime of exposure.

she wasn’t wearing a latex construction of the outer and inner labia, your pubes (or a faux fur representation of them) are not the same as your genitals.

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 20:12

DragonsCrisps · 26/12/2022 20:05

Well, when you've said "I'm going to be indecent", "this isn't the last minge you'll see" and "get it right up you", you have very much set out that you want to be indecent, you are doing this to offend, and you are representing what you are flashing as genitalia.

If a man flashes but has a fake dick stuck to his pants, the intent to harm, express power and offend remains.

I don't think "if you look closely, what I flashed wasn't actually my genitals, but rather fake genitals I constructed, and was referring to as genitals" is a good defence against flashing, nor a good precedent to set.

You're on a hiding to nothing on here tonight we're not having it.

She didn't flash and what she did show wasn't even a fake version of her fucking genitals.

SueVineer · 26/12/2022 20:12

It’s a breach of the peace at least. I personally thought it was crass and did us gc women more harm than good.

Clymene · 26/12/2022 20:10

Do you know what a 'joke' is @DragonsCrisps?

Have you seen the photos and footage? Even if you were some way away, it's pretty clear it's not actually her vulva on display

NoWordForFluffy · 26/12/2022 20:10

DragonsCrisps · 26/12/2022 20:05

Well, when you've said "I'm going to be indecent", "this isn't the last minge you'll see" and "get it right up you", you have very much set out that you want to be indecent, you are doing this to offend, and you are representing what you are flashing as genitalia.

If a man flashes but has a fake dick stuck to his pants, the intent to harm, express power and offend remains.

I don't think "if you look closely, what I flashed wasn't actually my genitals, but rather fake genitals I constructed, and was referring to as genitals" is a good defence against flashing, nor a good precedent to set.

Whatever you think of what she did, it doesn't fulfil the actus reus of the offence, which is flashing genitals. Maybe she did intend to cause offence, but having the mens rea without the actual act of showing her genitals doesn't fit the description of the crime.

There may be some form of public disorder offence they'll decide upon instead though, I suppose, if they're determined to punish.

pieceofpasta · 26/12/2022 20:09

@SignSignalbox I don't think there is much to charge her with as it's not illegal to sew fur to some tights but I think Elaine is going to be pretty disappointed if they don't think of something.

FOJN · 26/12/2022 20:08

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 19:18

Oh dear me. Flashing in public is a key indicator of a sexual predator. This woman should be kept away from children as soon as possible and given a full psych evaluation.

In men, yes but female sex offenders have different patterns of offending and motivations. Although I'm happy to consider evidence which supports your assertion.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/12/2022 20:07

Love it when the men get all agitated about women's behaviour.

VinoDino · 26/12/2022 20:05

I thought the definition of flashing was showing one's genitals in public.

Which she didn't do.

DragonsCrisps · 26/12/2022 20:05

crumpet · 26/12/2022 19:43

Of course we’d need to first understand how being fully clothed with a piece of furry fabric on display and no visible genitals constitutes flashing.

Well, when you've said "I'm going to be indecent", "this isn't the last minge you'll see" and "get it right up you", you have very much set out that you want to be indecent, you are doing this to offend, and you are representing what you are flashing as genitalia.

If a man flashes but has a fake dick stuck to his pants, the intent to harm, express power and offend remains.

I don't think "if you look closely, what I flashed wasn't actually my genitals, but rather fake genitals I constructed, and was referring to as genitals" is a good defence against flashing, nor a good precedent to set.

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 20:05

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 19:59

Unless you're a mattabooboo.

That makes me feel very updog 😂

Waitwhat23 · 26/12/2022 20:04

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 19:59

Does anyone have the definition of flashing/indecent exposure to hand? I don’t want to look it up (sorry).

im pretty sure there has to be actual exposure or else wouldn’t anyone in swim wear be fucked?

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/66

And you're right. Has to be actual exposure. Of genitals.

NOT A MERKIN.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 20:03

Does anyone have the definition of flashing/indecent exposure to hand? I don’t want to look it up (sorry)

seems to be showing genitals….which she didn’t

am i keen on what she did….no

did she flash anyone….no

do I support people protesting…..yes

did the protest work….yes, apparently so

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 20:03

@Theunamedcat oh as girl as well as woman, my first proper raincoat flasher was when I was 7 ish

Theunamedcat · 26/12/2022 20:01

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 19:14

Yeah should have thought of that, way to kill a thread

OK who's been flashed with a real penis or been sent unsolicited duck pics

As a child or adult? As a child several times as an adult? Even more with unsolicited pics

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 20:00

That was Boiled's post I was responding to.

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 19:59

Unless you're a mattabooboo.

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 19:59

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 19:53

Shows the flashing was pre-meditated and planned…
Merkins are erotic fetish wear so it doesn’t make it ok imho.

Does anyone have the definition of flashing/indecent exposure to hand? I don’t want to look it up (sorry).

im pretty sure there has to be actual exposure or else wouldn’t anyone in swim wear be fucked?

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 19:58

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 19:57

I’m blaming you if I get my collar felt!

I'd be more wary of the men with honey, or guns

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 19:57

Maybe we should all shout it out.

GIVE ME A M, GIVE ME AN E, GIVE ME A R, GIVE ME A K, GIVE ME AN I, GIVE ME A N. WHAT WAS SHE WEARING? M.E.R.K.I.N. MERKIN.

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 19:57

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 19:46

Unless you identify as a bear. Then technically you'd be naked

I’m blaming you if I get my collar felt!