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A woman who willingly aborts a child should be regarded in exactly the same way as a man who willingly commits rape

56 replies

IwantToRetire · 24/12/2022 21:24

This is when you are glad that twitter is allowing some GC voices back, but wish that free speech didn't mean self entitled men could talk grossly offensive comments about women.

What an absolute shit

twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1606012459134976000?s=46&t=p-y0Ke7yOJUY2JU_UrYSHQ&

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Soothsayer1 · 25/12/2022 12:21

GCAcademic · 24/12/2022 21:27

How does a man unwillingly commit rape?

That's what I thought and it makes me think that the real agenda here is an attempt to lay the groundwork for men not being responsible for rape?
Sort of links in with the also nonsensical idea that one can be involuntarily celibate

Thelnebriati · 25/12/2022 12:17

'Gender' is a system that assigns social expectations of dress and behaviour, based on a persons sex. People who don't conform to those expectations face negative consequences.
Being 'gender critical' means criticising that system. 'Gender' doesn't exist. Its a social construct used to limit peoples right to participate in society. If gender was real the rules for men and women would be consistent across cultures and throughout time, and they aren't.

Feminism is gender critical by default. The term 'gender critical' was used by people who wanted to join the resistance but not use the term 'feminist'.

FOJN · 25/12/2022 12:01

I agree about not giving him attention, but it is one of those situations where the very worst type of male turns out to be gender critical. He doesn't believe TWAW.

Giving him attention and the label gender critical gives the impression he's in some way a part of the women's movement to push back against gender ideology, he is not and that's why we should ignore him.

FuchsAndMöhr · 25/12/2022 00:44

What a cunt!

LimePickles · 25/12/2022 00:29

The second series of his ex wife’s show, which she co-produced and starred in, has just been released and has rave reviews. It’s brilliant.

In the first episode she has a termination.

metro.co.uk/2022/12/13/billie-piper-on-i-hate-suzie-toos-fearless-return-and-unique-25-year-career-17895024/amp/

I wonder why he chose now to air his views?

He seems obsessed with her and recently took to Twitter to accuse her of blocking access to their children… I think there is a probably a good reason the children don’t want to spend time with him!

MintJulia · 25/12/2022 00:12

Is his general publicity flagging? Has he got a new production coming out? Sounds like a bid for publicity at any cost to me.

What a complete tit !

I wonder if Emilia Fox finds him as ignorantly embarrassing as everyone else.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/12/2022 00:09

but it is one of those situations where the very worst type of male turns out to be gender critical. He doesn't believe TWAW.

He may not believe TWAW (probably along with the vast majority of men) but that does not make him gender critical. Has he said anything that implies he doesn't approve of gender stereotypes? - he evidently doesn't think women have more right to control their own bodies than a man does.
Don't confuse two entirely different things please.

Hoardasurass · 25/12/2022 00:03

I wonder what he would class women like myself who had a miscarriage and "retained material" who was given the abortion tablets (which didn't work) and then a DNC and as such my medical records state that I have had two abortions(never having chosen to end a pregnancy) and 1 and a partial miscarriage (lost 1 twin the other survived) as? I ask this as someone who would personally never have an abortion unless my life was at risk (due to my ds and his ongoing care needs (his dad being dead)) but believe that it's each individual woman's decision about what is right for her ie anytime any reason, because under his rules I should be dead or in jail! I had no choice my baby was dead and I could die from sepsis or take the tablets/have the procedure.
This is the thing that worries me the most about this "debate" they refuse to acknowledge the fact that most (if I remember correctly 76% of abortions (ONS statistics) are medically necessary ie women who will die without one vs the 24% who choose to have 1 (many of which are for fetal abnormalities, the rest because the woman deems it nesscary (which I agree wholeheartedly with)), the so called "pro-life" cohort refused to acknowledge that most women are in a life or death position where the baby is dead or has zero chance of survival and its the women's life that hangs in the balance.
The question should be should women have the right to choose not to die a horrible and painful death or should we be allowed a medically necessary procedure (with some women choosing not to carry a pregnancy to term due to personal reasons or incompatibility with life ie who's life means more a group of cells that may be dead or uncompatical with life outside of the womb or the woman/potential mother?

GimmeBiscuits · 25/12/2022 00:00

PomegranateOfPersephone · 24/12/2022 23:02

Is Lawrence Fox religious? Why is he saying this? What is his motivation?

He's saying it to get a reaction and because he's a right wing prick.

Hawkins001 · 24/12/2022 23:49

Omg

Boiledbeetle · 24/12/2022 23:35

Well isn't he a delightful man.

I wonder how the figures on abortions break down, as in how many are because of rape, coercive control, men denying their partners use of contraception, general shitty domestic abuse.

Calphurnia88 · 24/12/2022 23:35

What a pathetic little man.

IwantToRetire · 24/12/2022 23:23

I agree about not giving him attention, but it is one of those situations where the very worst type of male turns out to be gender critical. He doesn't believe TWAW.

Actually the worst type of male whatever there other politics are the one who say TWAW.

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SiobhanSharpe · 24/12/2022 23:22

Wasn't he married to Billie Piper several years ago?
They've been divorced for years too. Or has he been divorced again?

PomegranateOfPersephone · 24/12/2022 23:19

GCAcademic · 24/12/2022 23:18

He’s a massive misogynist. He seems to have developed a visceral hatred of women and a keen sense of his own victimhood shortly after his divorce.

Ahh, makes sense.

GCAcademic · 24/12/2022 23:18

PomegranateOfPersephone · 24/12/2022 23:02

Is Lawrence Fox religious? Why is he saying this? What is his motivation?

He’s a massive misogynist. He seems to have developed a visceral hatred of women and a keen sense of his own victimhood shortly after his divorce.

Theimpossiblegirl · 24/12/2022 23:17

Oh
My
Fucking
God
He
Can
Fuck
Right
Off

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/12/2022 23:13

Dogsogdog · 24/12/2022 21:59

Don’t give him any attention

Yep, he's clearly saying something incendiary for the reaction. Wasn't his last ploy forming Pride flags into a swastika or something? Total tosspot. I guess it must be hard to be the loser in a family of successes.

MrNorrell · 24/12/2022 23:13

I doubt Lawrence Fox would care if they were giving away a free abortion with every Happy Meal. It's just an excuse for pseudo intellectual masturbation.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 24/12/2022 23:05

I think posters who say ignore him have the right idea. I’m not giving it any more thought. Clearly attention seeking.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 24/12/2022 23:02

Is Lawrence Fox religious? Why is he saying this? What is his motivation?

Thelnebriati · 24/12/2022 22:45

Its all just a game to men, they are enjoying themselves. They don't see that pleasure as a moral failing.
I suspect they may be coming for abortion rights now.

Soubriquet · 24/12/2022 22:28

Sometimes I just want to close the internet forever with a what the fuck?!

This is one of those times

FOJN · 24/12/2022 22:23

He's trolling and loving the fall out. The tweet has had over 3 million views, a good days work for his political party. He finished the day with night night child murderers so he's best ignore.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 24/12/2022 22:23

He pays lip service to the idea that rape is wrong, but I don’t think he’d be able to explain why it’s wrong.