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What fresh hell is this... Pronouns book for 5+

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ShatnersEchidna · 23/12/2022 19:16

Saw this in a very prominent position in the children's section of my local library. Says for 5+. I despair.
It includes template letters for sending to your teachers and parent friends demanding that you respect your child's pronouns.

What fresh hell is this... Pronouns book for 5+
What fresh hell is this... Pronouns book for 5+
What fresh hell is this... Pronouns book for 5+
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ScrollingLeaves · 29/12/2022 18:59

Spellegrin · Today 13:00
Thanks. Signed of course.

That’s great.

Spellegrin · 29/12/2022 13:00

Thanks. Signed of course.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/12/2022 23:27

This petition is against teaching gender ideology in schools - the same motivation that is behind these books.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618970

Oher · 28/12/2022 23:01

I was a magic cat when I was five.

”Thonself” yeah good luck with that. You can print books for kids and stick them in libraries but you can’t make the world believe what you believe just by demanding that it be so.

EL0ISE · 28/12/2022 21:45

Grin @Boiledbeetle

Boiledbeetle · 28/12/2022 21:27

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 28/12/2022 21:05

These kinds of books seem to fall down the back of the shelves a lot in my local library.

It's the stability of the words within them. It's like the library knows the books that are making a mockery of its purpose, to be a receptacle, (bugger that's not the right worc is it ? !? Who knows words are so meaningless now, and autocorrect had abandoned me since I publicly insulted it) of knowledge. And so the less stable books, naturally, fall, quickly and sharply into bins and behind shelves and into the middle of unread tomes or to languish on the shelves in never read sections.

It's nature.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 28/12/2022 21:05

These kinds of books seem to fall down the back of the shelves a lot in my local library.

UWhatNow · 28/12/2022 21:04

Coxspurplepippin · 24/12/2022 07:58

I think I would have been tempted to reshelve the book among the 'practical accounting for apiarists' or 'how to build your own monkey wrench ' section, or to have accidentally dropped it on the floor and kicked it under a shelf. What a pile of steaming dross.

I was going to say check it out and keep renewing it but this is a much better idea.

ArabellaScott · 28/12/2022 20:58

PermanentTemporary · 23/12/2022 22:43

Reminds me of Victorian books I have read when there was so much emphasis on etiquette and social ritual, which corner of your visiting card you had to turn down to indicate you would accept a return visit etc etc.

Maybe societies that are above subsistence level develop these kinds of rituals whether we think they make any sense or not.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Most 5 year olds not really all that interested in 'etiquette' no matter how 'gently' it is indoctrinated taught.

TimandGinger · 28/12/2022 20:03

Spellegrin · 26/12/2022 14:50

Terrifying. They are so coming after the children. Bastards.

A mum at school took her son to see Shlomo (a beat boxer who does kids shows, and is now ‘non binary’) at the Edinburgh Fringe. He got her son up to the front and asked him what he identifies as. I’d have been furious but she seemed to think it was fine. 😕Her son is four btw.

saveforthat · 26/12/2022 14:52

I honestly thought the op had faked this as a joke until I saw the other examples.

Spellegrin · 26/12/2022 14:50

Terrifying. They are so coming after the children. Bastards.

SockGoddess · 26/12/2022 14:44

boiledbeetle Grin

Yes I’ve pondered trying to start a viral trend for some kind of meta-level, super woke “gender identity” that is based on your actual lived experience of your sexed body. You know like how being black or disabled is based on your physical lived reality and pretending to be it when you’re not is actually seen as quite rude and insulting and fake. If we could make such a “sexed lived experience” identity into a fashionable genderwoo category, imagine how offended people would be if anyone tried to appropriate it!

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 12:22

Random man snuck in behind a sentance on that last post.

Is nothing safe?

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 12:19

@SockGoddess at this point we need some stooges to infiltrate, start off at first as non binary to get your foot in, try out he/they for a while, then a quick flirt with ze/zir to make sure you've got all bases covered then secretly publish on line some new pronoun list that gives she/her as perfectly legitimate pronouns for a female person who's completely confused of think they are a man

Ta da women back to female pronouns no matter what the think they would like to be if life was a video game. Shut showing my age there, computer game? No even that sounds out of date. Ah online game.man

I mean it's no more batshit than the current way they choose their pronouns.

SockGoddess · 26/12/2022 12:08

Every time someone announces a new pronoun (ze etc) I'm sure there's a group of people laughing somewhere going 'haha they actually fell for using that!' Surely most people can see that having a massive list of possible pronouns is ridiculous and unnecessary?!

This! It’s like making up a load of preposterous new pronouns that you can insist people use, is in itself a massive pisstake of the whole idea of gender ideology. It’s obviously made up and belies the fact that having a “gender identity” is also made up and meaningless. Yet it just gets absorbed into the whole thing. How can you possibly “come out” as ze/zir or fae or fluxgender or whatever when someone just thought it up last week? How can you not be embarrassed about being such a self-obsessed PITA as to actually instruct other people to use a special pronoun for you that literally sounds like a satire on the whole pronoun bollocks? I don’t understand how so many people seem to totally lack a sense of humour about their own self-importance.

My fully genderwoo, “genderqueer” relative has a ze/zir friend who is one of the most unstable, detached from reality people I have ever met, and I say that kindly, I am not attacking this person for having some MH issues. But jumping on whatever new identity they possibly can every few months is what they do. It’s the very antithesis of a “true” identity.

BCBird · 25/12/2022 19:13

'What kind of fuc*very is this? '

ScrollingLeaves · 25/12/2022 19:07

Breakfastinbedonhols · Today 02:06
Lemonade:
A group of parents took the WG to court to stop them making sexuality lessons compulsory from age 3+ and they have lost. You cannot withdraw your child from these lessons now.

I wonder what would happen to parents who keep their children home on those days?

Some parents just have enough and home school if they can.

This is a petition to remove ‘gender identity’ ideology from relationships education in schools.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618970

Breakfastinbedonhols · 25/12/2022 02:06

Lemonade:
A group of parents took the WG to court to stop them making sexuality lessons compulsory from age 3+ and they have lost. You cannot withdraw your child from these lessons now.

Rightsraptor · 25/12/2022 02:06

Books don't get date stamped at the self-checkouts so you often can't tell how often they've been out (unless you get someone like me who writes the due date in by hand). The libraries know though.

This book looks bloody ridiculous.

nationallampoons · 25/12/2022 01:58

Bills new dress is another book! My daughter came home with it when she was 7/8

LemonadeSunshine · 25/12/2022 01:45

What utter tripe!

What is the Wales reference??

DdraigGoch · 25/12/2022 00:18

Do libraries still date-stamp books when they issue them? It would be interesting to know just how often they get checked out.

Before they accidentally slide down the back of the shelf, of course.

Reading the "about the author" bit on the back was weird. Refers to "she" or "her throughout but then right at the end there's a "they" which sends you scanning back to see who else was involved.

MyCrumpetIsCold · 25/12/2022 00:17

I know of at least one bookseller who will be shoving this crap down the back of shelves if it appears in the shop she works in. A bit like The Antiracist Baby, copies of which were removed from sale when they were badly damaged somehow …

DdraigGoch · 25/12/2022 00:10

Oystersandwhelks · 23/12/2022 22:17

There's another one on Amazon which is for children from babies to 3.
See this 5 star review:

"My seven month old loves the book for the pictures of people and I appreciate being able to introduce her to this concept from the start of her verbal development."

Did the reviewer just assume the pronouns of a non-verbal seven month old? How do they know that he/she/they/furry want to be known as "her"?