Radio 4 today 23/12/22

But it's not 'humiliating and degrading' (their new catchphrase) for women to be put into prison with rapists?!

She should also know that “vulnerable men” in male prisons are housed in separate accommodation if there is a risk to them. Correctly, as they are men. No justification for the use of womens prisons. I guess they could decide not to imprison women for comparatively small crimes, and make those available for these wonderful men.

WTF is a ‘girlie man’? Please explain!? Apparently this is someone at high risk of male violence in a male prison - but so what as this doesn’t mean they are women?

I also understood Kennedy to say the Scottish law is a pilot for the world and will likely only impact a small number of females - just think of the marginalised trans and how great it is for them.

At least the Tory peer said there were a lot of unknowns (including what it means to live as ‘opposite gender’).

What a mess - but hey it’s only women and girls!

She should bloody well be aware that women have been forced to accept TW in our organisations, for funding and to allow the gradual takeover by men such as MW. Everyone now has to be scrupulous in upholding the exemptions under the Equality Act.

If this segment was taken down accurately, that really was remarkably clear by Kennedy:

twitter.com/Nico_Macdonald/status/1606205684827168771

Helena Kennedy was a disgrace. When Justin commented about biological reality rather than be kind she was appaling, rant about discrimination at work, don't worry about biology, trans women can't get uterine cancer -no shit Sherlock.
As for trans women aren't any risk in women's prisons.
Urgh......

Baroness Kennedy sounded ill-informed to be frank. She would benefit from reading around this topic as it sounds like she gets all her info from the BBC and Guardian.

Yes that piece was astonishing, but good to hear the relevant questions asked ( but not answered) BBC suddenly much more aware of all the issues, unlike Kennedy who just came over as a handmaiden .

It's also the small everyday things, I no longer feel safe to take my swimming costume off in the female showers to wash properly as I feel on edge that a man might now be permitted to walk in any time. It's not life changing but it is a constant reminder that as a woman I'm not safe from the risk of male sexual abuse. I'm recovering from a gynaecological cancer too so feeling particularly fragile. There was a camera under the cubicles incident in my leisure centre a couple of years ago.

I noticed that birdsweepsin The programming of PM yesterday was similarly striking. And Evan Davis was better at dealing with the ramifications for women both in Scotland and Afghanistan than I expected, based on his usual tone.

However just listened to Justin Webb with Baroness Kennedy and although he asked some good questions (as expected) he didn’t push back nearly enough on some of her outrageous suggestions. I’m very tired today, but was she implying that women needing rape crisis services actually want transwomen to be present, in the interests of equality?!

That a ‘feminine looking man’ is more vulnerable in prison than women in a female prison in the company of a transwomen (who may or may not be a sexual predator, as these things happen…🙄)

Yeah, she walked right into that one with her point aboout predatory men being the problem and not joining the last two dots. I’m biting my tongue but @MoirasSaggyBundles post covered my sentiments perfectly.

Wow. The misogyny is strong in this one:
<paraphrasing>…being a woman is so rubbish, no one would pretend unless they sincerely wanted to be…

Baroness Kennedy hasn't changed her tune, she's been saying similar for ages, it's just the context has changed and what she's saying, and what she would facilitate to please certain men, is now much more clear.

I cannot believe what I’m hearing - hang your head in shame Kennedy!

FUCK YOU, HELENA KENNEDY, YOU MISOGYNIST, MRA APOLOGIST

Baroness Kennedy effectively saying that the risk to women and girls is low enough not to worry about and this is a price worth paying because of the Most Oppressed Ever transwomen.

Here is a useful thread.

twitter.com/helensteel12/status/1606198396041121792?s=46&t=odqPvtcIKNfvUaczXZBEew

May be a coincidence but they just had powerful personal testimony regarding the situation for women and girls in Afghanistan.

Justtellingthetruth have a look at the UN report from Alsalem, including a very pointed note that sex-based statistics are often not collected, and where they are nobody will collate them
I saw a Twitter referenced on here from a journalist who said she had data, but as a freelancer, she’d been warned not to write the story
Also notice that Shona Robison saying both that personal testimony wasn’t enough, hard data is needed AND rejecting the need to collect data on the impacts of the bill
if data is not sex-disaggregated, or is not collected, obviously nothing can be proved wrt sex….

Really hope that’s not ranting, you’re right, it’s important to look at all the evidence