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Secretary of State for Scotland looking at using Westminster powers to overule gender recognition bill

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fromorbit · 22/12/2022 15:55

Alister Jack has said he is willing to consider blocking the Gender Recognition Reform Bill under Section 35 of the Scotland Act.
twitter.com/JournoStephen

Detailed Review of the Legal case that powers that could be used:
ukconstitutionallaw.org/2022/12/21/michael-foran-sex-gender-and-the-scotland-act/

In short it seems there are potential good grounds to use Section 35 in this case due to contradictions in the legislation. [Lots of speculation that this was this Sturgeon's aim all along create legislation so bad it would be overturned and increase support for Indy? However I think this is just a case of pure ideology combined with incompetence.]

Writing into your MP especially if they are a Tory would be a good move at this point.

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Untitledsquatboulder · 22/12/2022 16:22

Babdoc · 22/12/2022 15:59

How fab if the UK rides to the rescue of women in Scotland- and what a bad look for the SNP!
What better illustration could we have for the benefits of the Union?!

Call me naive but if Scottish women don't want this change in the law then how in the hell has it been voted through? Women make up slightly more than half the population. I'm tempted to think most must support the change or just not (inexplicably) care very much.

TheBiologyStupid · 22/12/2022 16:19

@ResisterRex posted this excellent piece by Sex Matters on another thread: sex-matters.org/posts/updates/the-question-for-the-next-four-weeks/

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 16:17

Probably what sturgeon is hoping for. Plus international sympathy for the independence cause.

GrouchyKiwi · 22/12/2022 16:15

BreadInCaptivity · 22/12/2022 16:07

Call me a cynic but I think if this happens NS will twist it to garner more support for Independence by saying it's an example of Westminster meddling from afar in Scottish affairs and thus why devolution doesn't cut it.

That said I hope people will see through it and think deeply about the hold the SNP have in Scotland and if they were to hold power in an independent Scotland, the damage they could do having no effective opposition.

The truth is that this is a very shoddy piece of legislation regardless of where you stand on the matter of gender reform for example giving no thought to the implications of de-transition.

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Your first paragraph is what I worry about.

BreadInCaptivity · 22/12/2022 16:07

Babdoc · 22/12/2022 15:59

How fab if the UK rides to the rescue of women in Scotland- and what a bad look for the SNP!
What better illustration could we have for the benefits of the Union?!

Call me a cynic but I think if this happens NS will twist it to garner more support for Independence by saying it's an example of Westminster meddling from afar in Scottish affairs and thus why devolution doesn't cut it.

That said I hope people will see through it and think deeply about the hold the SNP have in Scotland and if they were to hold power in an independent Scotland, the damage they could do having no effective opposition.

The truth is that this is a very shoddy piece of legislation regardless of where you stand on the matter of gender reform for example giving no thought to the implications of de-transition.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 22/12/2022 16:07

Thanks for the heads up on this, I have a Tory MP and have been feeling very upset and powerless about the Scottish situation today. I will write to him.

TofuonToast · 22/12/2022 16:01

Also shows the gravity of the situation that MPs are prepared to use these powers. Maybe women matter after all.

Babdoc · 22/12/2022 15:59

How fab if the UK rides to the rescue of women in Scotland- and what a bad look for the SNP!
What better illustration could we have for the benefits of the Union?!