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Posie’s back!

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Whatthechicken · 21/12/2022 21:09

love her, or hate her, we need her…and not a moment too soon.

twitter.com/theposieparker/status/1605663118402600961?s=21&t=PWXzDYgfqtMOfbm25dj7Mw

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WarriorN · 23/12/2022 06:42

He's a mansplainer. Doubtful it would go in.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 23/12/2022 00:42

drhf · 23/12/2022 00:01

Not to derail, but I noticed some dude mansplaining to PP on her return to Twitter that "adult human female" is grammatically incorrect because "there’s a rule about graduating from smaller to larger scale categories which every dictionary will observe [and] 'Adult female human’ is the definition. ‘Adult human female’ is your brand."

This is actually a misunderstanding of the relevant grammatical principles, but never mind that. Let's follow through this mansplainer's argument, meaning that to be grammatically correct (in his mind), the last category ('female') should be the largest.

Which... it is. Are many adult human males actually unaware that there are inordinately more females than there are humans, and that female is the "larger scale category"? How do they think sexual reproduction works in non-human species? Over 99.9% of eukaryotes reproduce sexually. Large gamete = female.

What's going on with biology teaching that people don't know this?

Indeed! Has someone explained this to him?!

drhf · 23/12/2022 00:01

Not to derail, but I noticed some dude mansplaining to PP on her return to Twitter that "adult human female" is grammatically incorrect because "there’s a rule about graduating from smaller to larger scale categories which every dictionary will observe [and] 'Adult female human’ is the definition. ‘Adult human female’ is your brand."

This is actually a misunderstanding of the relevant grammatical principles, but never mind that. Let's follow through this mansplainer's argument, meaning that to be grammatically correct (in his mind), the last category ('female') should be the largest.

Which... it is. Are many adult human males actually unaware that there are inordinately more females than there are humans, and that female is the "larger scale category"? How do they think sexual reproduction works in non-human species? Over 99.9% of eukaryotes reproduce sexually. Large gamete = female.

What's going on with biology teaching that people don't know this?

beastlyslumber · 22/12/2022 23:49

Brilliant! Merry Christmas! Xmas Grin

TofuonToast · 22/12/2022 23:14

We owe Elon a beer!

BoreOfWhabylon · 22/12/2022 22:52

Great news!

RumNotRun · 22/12/2022 22:10

FuriousAndFrustrated · 22/12/2022 22:09

@Glinner is back too!

twitter.com/Glinner

I was just coming on to share that. Fantastic news!

FuriousAndFrustrated · 22/12/2022 22:09

@Glinner is back too!

twitter.com/Glinner

TheBiologyStupid · 22/12/2022 21:50

Misogynists gonna misogyny.

Indeed, Warrior. For now, as the great philosopher Taylor Swift advised, women will just have to "Shake it Off". But there will eventually be a reckoning for all this hateful shit.

WarriorN · 22/12/2022 17:46

Have you ever pondered why KJK is vilified for having SPOKEN to/about some issues and soanyone who says they agree with anything she says is equally vilified? In short: woman speaks, gets vilified.

Did you ever wonder why people who want to believe TWAW, people like you and @wokebro , are NOT called all sorts of nasty names because your icons (you know, people who also want to believe TWAW) are convicted pedophiles, rapists, flashers, liars, frauds, etc etc?

Misogynists gonna misogyny.,

It's the same old story.

As said up to thread, they reveal themselves daily.

WarriorN · 22/12/2022 17:43

Catching up...

Christ poise, you broke mumsnet.

Keep it up luv 👍

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/12/2022 16:30

Onnabugeisha · 21/12/2022 22:39

Don’t fall for this, they don’t give a shit about KJKs sordid doings. They’ve drunk some serious kool aid and think she’s the messiah.

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No no no no @Onnabugeisha

We know she is a woman with her won opinions. Some of which some of us agree with, some of which some of us disagree with.

Have you ever pondered why KJK is vilified for having SPOKEN to/about some issues and soanyone who says they agree with anything she says is equally vilified? In short: woman speaks, gets vilified.

Did you ever wonder why people who want to believe TWAW, people like you and @wokebro , are NOT called all sorts of nasty names because your icons (you know, people who also want to believe TWAW) are convicted pedophiles, rapists, flashers, liars, frauds, etc etc?

Could that be because we, women, GC women, feminists, MNers, aren't as desperate to discredit people like you using vacuous, illogical, slanderous, libellous claptrap?

Because very single time someone like you @Onnabugeisha or @wokebro post such gibberish all that happens is many of us reading have a little laugh at your expense, knowing you have fuck all left in the commonsense cupboard, are bereft of rational thought!

You really must try to do better.

BoreOfWhabylon · 22/12/2022 15:55

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 22/12/2022 10:50

I don't even like Posie that much

But I do love how she brings out the inner loon in some of the people who post here

most entertaining

Yes, she just lets them reveal themselves for what they are and laughs at them Xmas Grin

TheBiologyStupid · 22/12/2022 15:38

Absolutely, Marsha. Anyone fancy telling Julie Bindel or JK Rowling that they're far-right (or even just Tories)?

MarshaBradyo · 22/12/2022 15:30

There are loads of posters who are left politically but are GC on here.

It’s one of the things that many women along the political spectrum can agree on.

I know genderists like to do the far right thing but it’s baseless. A bit like gender versions of man and woman.

LangClegsInSpace · 22/12/2022 15:27

BloodyHellKen · 22/12/2022 14:45

@LangClegsInSpace , I didn't realise you were being ironically Trumpian. Irony doesn't always translate very well in a typed message 😂

But my point still stands. Why do so many TRAs speak in such a weird Trumpian way - I suppose it must be because so many are American or spend their time on US based forums.

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Yeah, sorry I was taking the piss out of the pop-up posters 😂

TheBiologyStupid · 22/12/2022 15:27

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 14:45

@BloodyHellKen
the Conservative Party in the UK are the equivalent of the US Democrats, not the Republicans.

😂😂 No, this is simply not true. And I say that as a Brit expat who lived for over twenty years in the US. The Conservatives are most closely equivalent to the Republicans, not the Democrats.

Making comparisons between US and UK political parties is fraught with danger. There are plenty of Dems who support gun ownership, for example, but that's not something any mainstream British party would countenance. The UK's health system, free at the point of delivery, is based on a funding model that all major UK political parties support (even libertarian right-wing Conservatives would think twice before advocating scrapping the NHS). Yet in the Democratic Party, universal healthcare is supported only by progressive (and some liberal) Dems.

It was the Conservative Party that introduced same-sex marriage legislation in the UK. Again, the US political divide on this issue doesn't map onto the UK's party framework.

I'm sure that there are plenty of other examples that demonstrate that Tories=GOP is a false equivalence.

BloodyHellKen · 22/12/2022 15:20

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 15:02

Its true there are no direct equivalents, but rather closest neighbours.

Conservatives in the UK and Republicans in the USA
■ Both dislike ‘big government’.
■ Both favour low taxation when the economy permits.
■ Both talk of being strong on law and order.
■ Both stress high levels of defence spending.
■ Both talk more about equality of opportunity than equality of results.

Labour in the U.K. and Democrats in the USA
■ Both put great stress on civil rights of minorities — gender, racial, sexual orientation, etc.
■ Both stress the rights of workers.
■ Both favour ‘green’ environmental policies.
■ Both want equality of opportunity, leading to equality of results.
■ Both favour high levels of government spending on health, welfare and education.
■ Both tend to favour higher levels of taxation on the more wealthy to fund services for the less well-off.

On the political spectrum, Republicans sit to the right of the Conservatives, and the Democrats sit to the right of Labour. Mostly because here in the U.K. even the Conservatives support abortion rights, abolishment of the death penalty, gun control and universal healthcare which means the U.K. spectrum sits to the left of the US spectrum.

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Closest neighbours? I don't agree with aligning very different political parties with each other just because they appear on the left or right of centre. By your reckoning the CCP has overlap with the Labour party.

I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 15:13

TofuonToast · 22/12/2022 15:09

So do you agree or disagree that laws and societal segregation should be determined by biology?

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Depends. It’s something that is a case by case issue.
Im not a biological determinist by any measure.

For example, I don’t agree women should be barred from serving in the armed forces, police, or fire fighters due to biology making us physically weaker.

I also don’t agree that parental shared leave should not exist, and we only have maternity leave because biology dictates that we women do the childbearing.

sorry have to pop to dentist ttfn

FlirtsWithRhinos · 22/12/2022 15:11

Typo 2..

"Furthermore, I see a deep logical inconsistency in the genderist assertion that everything we understood a woman to be based on sex is wrong, and yet everything social and legal built on that wrong basis is somehow just right"

Though tbf it's logistically inconsistent as well 😂

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 15:10

FlirtsWithRhinos · 22/12/2022 15:03

Oops, typo..

I meant to say "I don't have an "ideological" belief that society "should" be segregated, nor laws defined, based on some abstract belief about biology".

I gathered that. Very thoughtful post and eloquently written btw.

TofuonToast · 22/12/2022 15:09

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 15:05

I made an observation on how biology can be part of ideology, ergo GC is an ideology based on biology. In response to a poster arguing that GC is not an ideology but biology, which is erroneous. I made no comment insofar as agreeing or disagreeing.

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So do you agree or disagree that laws and societal segregation should be determined by biology?

Onnabugeisha · 22/12/2022 15:09

@FlirtsWithRhinos

genderist demands for social change are ideological
Of course they are. As are GC efforts to resist such social changes. It’s all ideology of one sort or another.

What I cannot accept is the demand that sex is simply replaced by gender with everything kept the same
Agree. They are two distinct things, gender and sex and are not synonymous nor inter-changeable.

BloodyHellKen · 22/12/2022 15:07

RoseslnTheHospital · 22/12/2022 15:04

@BloodyHellKen managed to find an archived version of that page

web.archive.org/web/20221130124945/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/26/opinion/sunday/republican-platform-far-right.html

Thank you :)