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Redefinition of 'Woman'

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InterestingUsernameTBC · 18/12/2022 19:02

So this has been swirling round in my head for a bit and I thought I'd put it down here and see if anyone has any comments.

In order for women to accept a male as a woman they have to redefine what it is to be a woman in his image.

It seems to me that some women say, that's fine. I'm happy to accept your redefinition. That doesn't contradict my own identity as a woman. We're both women, you're a trans woman and I'm a cis woman.

And then there are others who say, I accept your redefinition of what a woman is but it doesn't fit with my identity as a woman so I must be non binary or a trans man.

And then there are women who say fuck off. I'm not redefining what it is to be a woman to suit any man. But how do these women hold onto their sense of self in a society that is seeking to redefine their identity and the language they use to describe it?

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TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:20

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:19

"Boundaries set". Yeah, ok, I don't know if it's escaped your notice but women's boundaries have been trampled on by gender ideologues. They aren't going to leave us a word if we ask nicely. If it describes women, they will want to take it.

It has not escaped my attention.

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:19

"Boundaries set". Yeah, ok, I don't know if it's escaped your notice but women's boundaries have been trampled on by gender ideologues. They aren't going to leave us a word if we ask nicely. If it describes women, they will want to take it.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 18/12/2022 19:17

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:13

That wouldn't work, Tofu, as whatever the new word is would immediately become coveted by those wanted to force themselves into the definition of women. It's the group that the word is associated with, not the word itself.

It's happening already with women using female to try to talk about women. The word female is now cropping up being used by trans identifying males to describe themselves.

This

TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:17

Syrax · 18/12/2022 19:16

I honestly hope that’s satire… it’s so hard to tell nowadays.

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Nope.

Syrax · 18/12/2022 19:16

TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:10

Probably the easiest thing to do would be to cede the word ‘woman’ sad come up with a new word that means biological woman and base policy on that.
I can imagine how this idea is going to go down on here!

I honestly hope that’s satire… it’s so hard to tell nowadays.

TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:15

That sports guy, Ross someone calls it ‘the retreat position’.

TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:14

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:13

That wouldn't work, Tofu, as whatever the new word is would immediately become coveted by those wanted to force themselves into the definition of women. It's the group that the word is associated with, not the word itself.

It's happening already with women using female to try to talk about women. The word female is now cropping up being used by trans identifying males to describe themselves.

It might if boundaries are set before the definition was used. And also who it excludes.

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:13

That wouldn't work, Tofu, as whatever the new word is would immediately become coveted by those wanted to force themselves into the definition of women. It's the group that the word is associated with, not the word itself.

It's happening already with women using female to try to talk about women. The word female is now cropping up being used by trans identifying males to describe themselves.

TofuonToast · 18/12/2022 19:10

Probably the easiest thing to do would be to cede the word ‘woman’ sad come up with a new word that means biological woman and base policy on that.
I can imagine how this idea is going to go down on here!

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/12/2022 19:08

Because woman isn't my identity, it's a fact about me not a core part of my personality. I'm just me, human and complex.