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How Long Before We Look Back In Amazement

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 13:11

..................over the fact that we had to go through all the transwankery. That we had to fight and fight over such an issue. That some men were allowed to do this to us. That even a lot of women could not see the harm this was causing women and girls.

I mean, surely there will come a time when we can look back and say "I remember that - it was awful - thank goodness people saw through it eventually." How long will it be?

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Bard6817 · 16/12/2022 18:13

Alas like always it will take either court cases or some awfull incidents, to realise that some a-hole of a man or men, abuse and kill some real women whilst he/they is identifying as a woman in a single sex safe space, for the fetish to be exposed for what it actually is, coupled with enough girls who went thru their trans phase, saw thru the bulls**t and either sue/prosecute the docs and other workers for the child abuse it is.

If we keep highlighting it as gobshite, they can’t claim ignorance when chickens come home to roost on those responsible.

hangonsnoopy · 16/12/2022 18:12

I hope that interest in trans is replaced by new trends among young people.

Dissociative identity disorder seems much less harmful. That group is tightening up gatekeeping to keep out abusers and is dropping the term 'little.'

Also people pretending to have some kind of spirit animal, be part wolf etc seems less harmful.

Both these trends are up and coming. I am not saying they are good, just less bad.

MarshaBradyo · 16/12/2022 18:09

We’re reversing things now but the next government could go in the other direction and it gets much worse

We get older and younger buy it more

And that’s it

That’s the very depressing version

The better one is Labour don’t reverse all that has been achieved

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 18:08

thewayround · 16/12/2022 18:07

oh dear. You really are tunnel vision about this issue and nothing else if you think alcoholism in “many cases” has no impact

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There are fewer alcoholics than women FFS.

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 18:07

And we still have 2 more fucking years to go

I kind of hope that the Sunak government will fuck up enough that an election is triggered.

Mind you - who would be in power instead? They're all in favour of trans ideology.

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thewayround · 16/12/2022 18:07

Signalbox · 16/12/2022 17:59

Doesn’t have the time or inclination to consider something that has no known impact on their life whilst at the same time campaigning for more understanding and support for something that in many cases has no impact on other people’s lives. Interesting attitude.

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oh dear. You really are tunnel vision about this issue and nothing else if you think alcoholism in “many cases” has no impact

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 18:06

Wiccan · 16/12/2022 18:04

Christ I hope not . I refuse to be classed as prejudiced when it comes to a man pretending to be a women .

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100% this!

Men cannot become women just because they decide to announce they've changed sex.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 16/12/2022 18:05

I remember that - it was awful - thank goodness people saw through it eventually.

I feel like that about everything this Tory government have done to the UK. Everything they've done to women. Their Self ID transfuckery is a part of their wider misogyny and incompetence.

And we still have 2 more fucking years to go.Xmas Angry

thewayround · 16/12/2022 18:05

DameMaud · 16/12/2022 17:53

outside of my family, my children, my work and my health… my external concerns are alcohol dependency and campaigning for more understanding and support (deceased parent due to alcoholism).

I just have the time or inclination!

I'm not goading, just genuinely interested in what made you engage in this thread thewayround?

Because the Op asked a question. And I responded upthread with my response to her specific question.

it then snowballed from there!

Boomboom22 · 16/12/2022 18:04

So maybe 20 years plus! How depressing.

Wiccan · 16/12/2022 18:04

autienotnaughty · 16/12/2022 17:58

I think it will be the other way tbh. One day women will be held accountable for prejudice toward trans people. I suspect it will be damaging for women's equality.

I mostly agree with your beliefs .

Christ I hope not . I refuse to be classed as prejudiced when it comes to a man pretending to be a women .

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 18:04

autienotnaughty · 16/12/2022 17:58

I think it will be the other way tbh. One day women will be held accountable for prejudice toward trans people. I suspect it will be damaging for women's equality.

I mostly agree with your beliefs .

Oh Lord.
I can't understand this attitude at all.
Why shouldn't women object to transwomen, who are trying to take over women's fought-for private spaces?

Women need to be more vocal about this; they should not be apologising to transwomen.

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DameMaud · 16/12/2022 17:53

outside of my family, my children, my work and my health… my external concerns are alcohol dependency and campaigning for more understanding and support (deceased parent due to alcoholism).

I just have the time or inclination!

I'm not goading, just genuinely interested in what made you engage in this thread thewayround?

Doesn’t have the time or inclination to consider something that has no known impact on their life whilst at the same time campaigning for more understanding and support for something that in many cases has no impact on other people’s lives. Interesting attitude.

autienotnaughty · 16/12/2022 17:58

I think it will be the other way tbh. One day women will be held accountable for prejudice toward trans people. I suspect it will be damaging for women's equality.

I mostly agree with your beliefs .

DameMaud · 16/12/2022 17:53

outside of my family, my children, my work and my health… my external concerns are alcohol dependency and campaigning for more understanding and support (deceased parent due to alcoholism).

I just have the time or inclination!

I'm not goading, just genuinely interested in what made you engage in this thread thewayround?

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 17:46

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:39

Come again? “Coerced” into a relationship with someone?

that is a whole different issue!

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Are you being deliberately disingenuous or do you genuinely not understand what is going on?

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Wiccan · 16/12/2022 17:40

TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 17:34

Because women's and girls' rights are being eroded, left, right and centre, just to satisfy the desires of a bunch of men.

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Spot on !

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:40

My concern in that scenario is the coercion irrespective of the gender of who’s doing the coercion!

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:39

Helleofabore · 16/12/2022 14:19

And none of your children are same sex attracted and may be coerced into accepting an opposite sex partner?

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Come again? “Coerced” into a relationship with someone?

that is a whole different issue!

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:37

Helleofabore · 16/12/2022 14:17

Right. So your daughters don’t play sport? And don’t go to something like guides? And won’t be going anywhere on a school overnight trip where a male could be accommodated with them? Ie. Not just your school but other activities with other schools and groups?

Plus your daughters doesn’t go out and use public toilets? Or public changing rooms? Won’t need single sex spaces?

Your daughter won’t ever miss out on an opportunity due to a male getting it instead?

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And when that time comes, then It will impact me.

but until that time, then it won’t keep me up at night.

I have other stuff that does that job very well indeed

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TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 17:34

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:32

Why “should” it.

I am a single working parent.

outside of my family, my children, my work and my health… my external concerns are alcohol dependency and campaigning for more understanding and support (deceased parent due to alcoholism).

I just have the time or inclination!

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Because women's and girls' rights are being eroded, left, right and centre, just to satisfy the desires of a bunch of men.

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thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:33

AutumnCrow · 16/12/2022 17:20

Unfortunately it's having a massive impact on my life.

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And I feel for you.

but I don’t judge or criticise you for not getting anxious or debating about things that have a big impact on my life

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:33

don’t

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:32

TheShellBeach · 16/12/2022 13:51

But it should, or you are part of the problem. Don't you see that?

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Why “should” it.

I am a single working parent.

outside of my family, my children, my work and my health… my external concerns are alcohol dependency and campaigning for more understanding and support (deceased parent due to alcoholism).

I just have the time or inclination!

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