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Greta Thunberg "♡♡♡" the Edinburgh bullyboys

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Fenlandia · 16/12/2022 00:53

In reply to one of them, an 18 year old he/himmer, bragging about having stopped women watching a film:

mobile.twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1603397308678549505

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MangyInseam · 16/12/2022 16:22

While I don't condone trash talking her, 19 or 20 is the age when young adults are normally going off to higher education, and where they should be finding their ideas robustly criticized and challenged by their teachers. They shouldn't be getting a pass at that age, it's what sets them up to become poor, reactionary thinkers.

As someone who has a pretty remarkable platform and public voice, she darn well should be challenged if she is trying to restrict the public discourse of others.

Helleofabore · 16/12/2022 12:20

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 08:26

Imagine starting a thread to bash teenagers 😂

The person that Greta was sending hearts to is an 18 year old female I believe. Who chose to join many others to prevent the screening of this documentary out of fear and outrage from what I can see.

I have seen it and I don't think it is controversial but uses plain language that some people would consider unsafe in their heightened sense of being victimised by misgendering.

So, yes. I imagine that there will be 'teenagers' being 'bashed' (figuratively, in the emotionally manipulative usage of the word rather than 'literally' - because no violence should be happening at all) in these threads about this protest and other protests where these extreme activists are protesting, and some even attacking, feminist rallies of any kind.

Helleofabore · 16/12/2022 12:13

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 08:49

The Scottish government also think a women in a hoodie and jeans is a ‘boy’ and girls are transphobic for refusing to have lesbian sex with them. I suppose you thing girls should get used to that too?

I am surprised to think anyone who has read anything that corgi has posted would think anything like this.

Corgi, you are being too subtle again.

We need to get the sarcasm emoji working!!!

Justme56 · 16/12/2022 12:00

The film includes working class women, women of colour and lesbians all talking about their own life experiences. Dylan’s actions show that Dylan thinks that only Dylan’s life matters and that people should only watch what Dylan thinks they should. Dylan seems to think that other far more intelligent people are not capable of making their own minds up about this issue. Dylan is a bully and Greta seems to think bullying is acceptable. Nobody likes bullies.

BatCheeseIsFine · 16/12/2022 10:52

Say whatever about Greta’s beliefs but you can’t possibly believe she’s never experienced misogyny!?

No, all women girls experience it IMO, but a relatively sheltered, western young woman will be more protected from its worst consequences (in general, obviously there are exceptions) and not see it as in issue. There are loads of young idealistic women supporting gender ideology and TWAW, even though it is regressive, sexist and harmful to women and girls. My point is they will become more worldly wise and aware of how misogyny works through more life experience and getting older - especially if they have kids.

Shol · 16/12/2022 10:46

This generation of teenage white male fanatics in UK/US/Canada who hate women and free speech are laughable now but it won’t be funny when they’re all in their thirties.

Afghanistan and Iran used to be really nice countries where women could wear short skirts, feel the breeze in their hair and debate politics.

www.boredpanda.com/afghanistan-1960-bill-podlich-photography/

TheBiologyStupid · 16/12/2022 10:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/12/2022 08:43

It's an hour and a half long. I thought it was excellent. Very clear, very accessible, good range of contributors, almost all women. Simon Edge is the only male contributor I can recall.

Yup, Simon Edge is the only male participant.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/12/2022 10:40

I reserve most of my criticism for all those who promoted Greta Thunberg as a figurehead while she was still a child, and then retreated behind her childhood whenever she was challenged.

This.

BordoisAgain · 16/12/2022 10:35

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 08:26

Imagine starting a thread to bash teenagers 😂

Chat shit get banged, as the youth say these days.

MangyInseam · 16/12/2022 10:23

I'd be surprised if she wasn't on board with this.

She's never been one for subtle thinking or spotting actual, real problems. And she has always been inclined to throw around accusations that other people are doing things wrong.

Sistanotcista · 16/12/2022 10:15

WarriorN · 16/12/2022 10:04

She's been thoroughly ratioed.

Love Luluchops. A rational, reasonable challenge. Looking forward to the reply.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 16/12/2022 10:04

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2022 08:59

I still think of her as a child. I think she wasn't properly protected as a child. I think she's since been used by various interests, and become a fetishised symbol of faux resistance.

So I have a lot of sympathy for Greta. I don't give her thoughts much credence, however.

This and what Floisme said.

I read much of the Twitter thread, I have a daughter the same age and I can’t get on board with any of the hostility towards Greta I read there however I also read many Tweets which were respectfully explaining her error of judgment to her. I hope that she is able to bring herself to watch the film and use her own judgment.

People don’t become fair game for nastiness just because they have had their 18th birthday in my opinion.

WarriorN · 16/12/2022 10:04

She's been thoroughly ratioed.

Greta Thunberg "♡♡♡" the Edinburgh bullyboys
ArabellaScott · 16/12/2022 09:56

Same, Floisme.

Floisme · 16/12/2022 09:56

I reserve most of my criticism for all those who promoted Greta Thunberg as a figurehead while she was still a child, and then retreated behind her childhood whenever she was challenged.

RoyalCorgi · 16/12/2022 09:52

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 09:42

Then join a thread (or better yet start one) celebrating teenage women and encouraging them to have an opinion. Hiding on a forum bashing women from a far isn’t helping anyone. I know you know this.

The criticism of Greta on this thread has been so far polite and measured. She has received all sorts of appalling abuse, death threats and the like on social media, whereas this thread is simply taking issue with a view she expressed to her five million Twitter followers.

Greta Thunberg has a huge public platform. She has addressed the UN. She expresses strongly-held views that reach millions of people. She can expect, therefore, that people will engage with them and criticise them. I'm sure she knows this, and I doubt very much that she has a problem with it.

It seems massively condescending to me to say that Greta Thunberg should be exempt from criticism just because she's young, when she is clearly mature enough to meet government leaders and address huge public rallies.

Fenlandia · 16/12/2022 09:51

Greta hearts people who forcibly and successfully stopped women from lawfully assembling at a university. I was interested what other posters made of this, because I don't like bullies or anyone who cheers them on.

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Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 09:42

RoyalCorgi · 16/12/2022 09:23

No, I think they should fight very hard against it.

I hope that clarifies matters.

Then join a thread (or better yet start one) celebrating teenage women and encouraging them to have an opinion. Hiding on a forum bashing women from a far isn’t helping anyone. I know you know this.

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2022 09:41
AutumnCrow · 16/12/2022 09:32

Greta Thunberg will be 20 years old on 3rd January which is only a couple of weeks away, according to Wiki.

BlackeyedSusan · 16/12/2022 09:25

She's autistic, like a lot of the girls we want to protect. And still quite young. If we go on the about two thirds chronological age that is used for autistic kids (and young adults)...

RoyalCorgi · 16/12/2022 09:23

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 08:49

The Scottish government also think a women in a hoodie and jeans is a ‘boy’ and girls are transphobic for refusing to have lesbian sex with them. I suppose you thing girls should get used to that too?

No, I think they should fight very hard against it.

I hope that clarifies matters.

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2022 09:09

This film must be terrifying, eh?

Clymene · 16/12/2022 09:03

Lovageandrose · 16/12/2022 08:26

Imagine starting a thread to bash teenagers 😂

Imagine preventing women from watching a film you haven't seen.

ArabellaScott · 16/12/2022 08:59

I still think of her as a child. I think she wasn't properly protected as a child. I think she's since been used by various interests, and become a fetishised symbol of faux resistance.

So I have a lot of sympathy for Greta. I don't give her thoughts much credence, however.