Male asked if I am pregnant when donating blood

“Gender questioning patients” 😂

But they're happy to not build a relationship with people who value biology/are GC?

They should have been the ones to back down. They needed him. They had his previous records. It was an unnecessary question and he should have forced the issue.

I will not answer that, you may choose to take my platelets or not.

It's possible to trace an individual donor. It's not easy you have to have access to the database, but details are kept, which is how they can send you a reminder to donate or ask you to donate part of the blood eg platelets.

Blood groups are not simply A B AB O there are 'minor' groups when you do or do not have certain antigens.

Blood also contains various haemoglobins, these change in response to things like illnesses.

During pregnancy the baby has feotal haemoglobin, after birth this changes over the first year.

Well done, Banana. I can’t believe the way children’s perception of reality is being relentlessly undermined.

I agree, well done. As far as I am concerned too it is terribly wrong.

There is a petition against teaching ‘gender identity’ in schools which could do with more signatures. People don’t seem to realise that children are being brainwashed.

Anyone interested in signing can look up these words to find the petition.
Remove references to 'gender identity' from relationships education guidance

Well done, Banana. I can’t believe the way children’s perception of reality is being relentlessly undermined.

Well refusing the donation would be a bit shortsighted

www.nhsbt.nhs.uk/news/national-blood-week-one-million-new-blood-donors-needed-over-next-5-years/

They ask everyone. There are a lot of gender non-conforming people in the world. If someone refuses to answer, they can't acccept the donation.

It also messes up the NHS data they are so keen on - they even have stats incl the number of men who have hysterectomies🤷‍♀️

Yes it is a huge mess.

That is why I say it is abusive. It forces the people around them to lie, and for those people to lie to the people around them and to force others into compliance.

It happens in organisations but also at a personal level in families.

Melroses · Today 14:29
It is important to realise that a Gender Recognition Certificate is not needed to change the sex marker on your NHS records. It is not needed either for changes to a passport or a driving licence.

It is only needed to change the sex recorded on the birth certificate and to change the details of your marriage after the event.

Thank you for making that clear. What a mess. You cannot take a fundamental fact of life, and start pretending it doesn’t exist.

I had not realised that sex could be changed on medical records as I had not realised that the legal lie (I think it is called) of a GRC would be extended to this.

It is important to realise that a Gender Recognition Certificate is not needed to change the sex marker on your NHS records. It is not needed either for changes to a passport or a driving licence.

It is only needed to change the sex recorded on the birth certificate and to change the details of your marriage after the event.

If I recall it is outlawed in the UK, but in overseas fertility clinics they will weigh sperm to separate out the sperm with X and Y chromosomes for couple who want a specific sexed baby, boy or girl, then only use the sperm for assisted conception that will give the right outcome. Sex is decided at conception and observed at birth.

OP in your shoes I would have said yes.

Because if they ask a stupid question expect a stupid answer.

I would personally refuse to answer anything relating to what was 'assigned' to me at birth, I don't remember anything about my birth, how the hell am I supposed to know if something was 'assigned' to me when I was born if I can't even remember it?

Couldn't this be considered 'Mis-sexing'?

From the official NHS screening information posted by Wishy:

3.2 Trans men and non-binary people assigned female at birth

This use of assigned by our official national medical organisation is so wrong.
What other meanings are they fudging and eliding?

This is really worrying. Due to the deleterious effects that supraphysiological doses of testosterone are known to have on all aspects of the female reproductive system, women who are taking exogenous testosterone should be PRIORITISED for smear tests, not overlooked.

In fact I think that women who are taking exogenous testosterone should be invited for a twice yearly MRI to check for uterine atrophy, which can be fatal - as it nearly was for Buck Angel.

Speaking of Buck Angel, and returning to the OP, I think it's probably a wise questions to ask, even for a blood donor who appears male. Some women who've been taking testosterone for a very long time do appear very masculine - like Buck - and although it's hugely unlikely that they would be able to get pregnant due to the terrible damage that testosterone does to women, it's not worth risking it. There are always outliers, so yes the question should be asked.

A few people gave asked if it's true that trans men won't be called for smears - yes. My friend has a trans man as a sibling (ASD, needs a little help with things but can live semi independently). I was once saying to her how I heard nhs changes records so trans men don't get the automated call for smears (she knows my stance), she looked into it for her 'brother' and found he hadn't been called for one and contacted GP and got it sorted. I don't know if now (s)he will be called for repeat smears in years to come.

@everlastingpanini ive found it’s not particularly conducive to building relationships with gender questioning patients when you have a limited time to gain their trust and compliance.

How did it happen that the term 'biological sex' cannot be used in a medical setting?

What kind of surreal nonsense is this and why why why are so many of those in authority complicit?

It's utter madness.

Thanks for clarifying, Wishiwasatailor. I could get into serious difficulties if I did not use ‘preferred’ pronouns at work, so I am forced to do it. However, for my own sanity, I use sex-based pronouns about whoever I wish to talk about in my private life. That’s my boundary.

@NecessaryScene I used “assigned” once then I explained why and said I would use birth sex going forward as personally I find 2 different phrases for the same thing depending on the audience tricky as I’m likely to slip up.
i agree biological sex is the most accurate but that won’t fly at work and I agree that assigned denotes choice so birth sex is my neutral phrase.

I won’t use terminology that I know might upset them and make them not feel accepted because that’s my job.

My point is that you seem to be justifying using terminology that upsets people here. The whole point of this thread is a non-genderologist being upset by their carer using obviously genderological terminology, and insisting on them complying.

Maybe you're not in favour of that, but if so it's not clear.