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Depressed about everything

33 replies

Fargoer · 13/12/2022 14:59

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this board and educated me over the years

Does anyone ever just feel utterly depressed and like there is no hope?

I need some encouragement.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 13/12/2022 16:18

It's a marathon, so definitely expect this shitshow to take years to clean up. There will be ups and downs, wins and losses.
But as another poster said, this is the first firm nail in the GRA coffin.

The gender zealots have fucked around and they are going to find out they have been very foolish in their extremism. Women are determined and we are resourceful. The GRA will be repealed.

nilsmousehammer · 13/12/2022 15:39

filphone · 13/12/2022 15:22

I sadly believe repealing the gender recognition bill in Scotland is impossible

It is a Scottish law so I believe Scottish Parliament would have to be the one to rappeal it - I sadly don't see that happening anytime soon.

I don't think Westminster is allowed to just remove laws in Scotland as much as I wish they could

Give it a few years.

And remember the arrogance that Brexiteers would never get anywhere, that they were just a small group of bigoted nuts, and how that ended.

Scolding, ignoring, building up anger, resentment.... it does not get the populace steered in the direction you'd like.

CountZacular · 13/12/2022 15:39

Yes, very much so.

I'm pregnant and my emotions are running high, but I'm also so worried I'll have a daughter although I would love one. It's not just the issues here, but the treatment of women in general. I feel like girls right now have a choice of being hypersexualised and thrust into Only Fans or Sex Work is Real Work mantras or being told they are boys instead. A case of display your body or change your body. I know many posters share that their daughters are empowered and strong young women, it's just feels like fighting a battle a losing battle right now from all fronts.

I believe this lunacy will come to an end and we'll be watching a Pararama-esque show about the horrors of women being beaten, raped and murdered; children being given life long medication and made infertile - but when, I just don't know and it worries me that we may have to see so much more damage until that day comes.

TheirEminence · 13/12/2022 15:34

I think it was a Mumsnetter called Barracker who once posted the below. Her contributions were always very insightful.

“They literally stopped recognising every actual single woman and girl, every female person. And they told us that we were now all an identity instead of a sex a psychology instead of a physiology. That was what female now meant. So that men could say they were women. And they did, hundreds of thousands of them did. There was no single word for actual females. We weren't allowed one. Our word was reallocated to men. We had to talk about ourselves as people with cervixes, or menstruators, and we had to agree that biology wasn't the real difference between the sexes, identity was. One by one, every reference to biological sex was replaced in every law with references to identity, until the law had erased any connection with female biology from pregnancy, childbirth, motherhood. Everything became something that applied to both men and women because it was forbidden to have real references to sex. Stating that only females were women was enough to lose your job, or even be charged with a crime.
Failing to agree with a man that he was a woman was enough to be ostracised, censored or threatened with legal action. Men took over women's sports, institutions, groups. Men represented us in every level of society, calling themselves women. There were no words to distinguish ourselves from these men. Everyone could see the female sex were becoming unspeakable people, unspoken of. You weren't allowed to acknowledge our separate existence from male people. Men committed crimes and society said women did it. You could never escape a man because he could follow you into any public space by identifying as female. People were very, very afraid to tell the truth. Many hundreds of children lost their reproductive organs trying to become the other sex. It was a very dark time.”

filphone · 13/12/2022 15:22

I sadly believe repealing the gender recognition bill in Scotland is impossible

It is a Scottish law so I believe Scottish Parliament would have to be the one to rappeal it - I sadly don't see that happening anytime soon.

I don't think Westminster is allowed to just remove laws in Scotland as much as I wish they could

nilsmousehammer · 13/12/2022 15:17

Yes, in a way it has been a good day. This is not about individual battles; this is a long term goal and we're working in terms of years, not months.

Today is the day the first real nail went into the coffin of the GRA. It has needed to get this bad and our point proven to this extent for people to realise and for groups to see that instead of merely talking about 'really the GRA should be repealed' to 'right, now comes the purposeful campaign to that goal'. And a lot of MPs will be seeing this.

JacquelinePot · 13/12/2022 15:14

Some days I wish I didn't know all this stuff was going on. Then I remember that it's ordinary people like us not knowing that meant the extremists were able to make so much progress. In secret, behind closed doors. Those days are over and I expect the news from Scotland will cause a mass Peakening.

If it's too much, have a break, there's plenty here to keep things going until you're ready to come back.

waterwitch · 13/12/2022 15:10

It’s not been a good day has it.
It will improve xx