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Jennie Russell & Libby Purves on Times Radio

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SerenityLoveLamb · 12/12/2022 11:07

Did anyone else catch this?

Both women clearly and unequivocally supported JKR new charity aiming to provide refuge for women away from male presence.

"On this, as on so many things, JKR is completely right"

"Traumatised women need safe spaces away from male bodies that may cause further trauma, no matter how those makes identify"

Not verbatim quotes, but close to. (I'm too slow!)

The male presenter said, "I'm sure there will be thoughts on your comments..."

I don't know much about Times Radio or who listens to it and what comments will be sent in, but it was such a surprise to overhear such clarity and brave and firmly held statements from both women (don't know if they've spoken out before either). I'm really pleased. And go JKR!

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Igmum · 12/12/2022 11:51

Thank you @Birdsweepsin it works! How far in is it? (To avoid listening to the full three hours!)

JoanOgden · 12/12/2022 11:51

Libby Purves has been openly GC for a while, having originally been pro the GRA when first passed and having indeed written a novel whose protagonist is a very supportively portrayed transwoman. I admire her for changing her mind in response to the facts. Jennie Russell is generally excellent too.

SerenityLoveLamb · 12/12/2022 11:48

RoyalCorgi · 12/12/2022 11:34

Jenni Russell is excellent. I have a feeling Purves has said something before too.

But you know what? This is the only sane view possible. Anyone who thinks that there isn't a need for single-sex services for survivors of sexual and domestic abuse is demonstrably a nasty piece of work.

Absolutely.

So sad that we've reached a point that both women, without hesitation, when asked to comment on the new service, replying positively and emphatically, feels like a surprising and brave response.

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SerenityLoveLamb · 12/12/2022 11:45

Igmum · 12/12/2022 11:37

Sounds great - do you have a link OP?

Sorry, I just happened to be in the 'right place at the right time' to overhear! I'm more of a BBC /Sounds person normally!

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FunnyTalks · 12/12/2022 11:44

But you know what? This is the only sane view possible. Anyone who thinks that there isn't a need for single-sex services for survivors of sexual and domestic abuse is demonstrably a nasty piece of work.

This. It surely doesn't have to even be part of the (no) debate? Transwomen have all of the other services available for them to use in Scotland. There is absolutely no need for anyone to try and force male bodied people into this lone female specific service.

Let's face it, JKR could bring about world peace and some people would say she'd done it transphobically. She knows that. So there's no need for activists to even comment on this project. It takes nothing from them or from the trans people whose best interests they claim to have at heart.

Birdsweepsin · 12/12/2022 11:42

Does this work?

www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/show/20221212-9023/2022-12-12

Igmum · 12/12/2022 11:37

Sounds great - do you have a link OP?

RoyalCorgi · 12/12/2022 11:34

Jenni Russell is excellent. I have a feeling Purves has said something before too.

But you know what? This is the only sane view possible. Anyone who thinks that there isn't a need for single-sex services for survivors of sexual and domestic abuse is demonstrably a nasty piece of work.