Beira's Place

Cuckoos and nests.

Except falling out of the nest when you're shoved is now a hate crime.

Stonewall et all could have set up their own services for Trans people across the UK with the amount of money they have had over the years since they abandoned LGB people.

Amazing. And the lovely Camus quote at the end had me tearing up.

As an aside, @AllMumsyWereTheBorrowedClothes might be my favourite MN username ever 😆

I am grateful that Kaite has a choice available and I hope they get all the support they need.

I am also extremely grateful that those who need a single sex space to recover from their trauma also now have an option available to them.

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Such heart warming news, thank you JKR 😇

I don't know what happened to the word 'been' in that post.

It should say:

It has never been about making sure there were enough services for trans and non-binary people; it has always been about validation and not allowing women to have anything that is women only

It has never about making sure there were enough services for trans and non-binary people, it has always about validation and not allowing women to have anything that is women only

I had some bloke complain on Twitter about Beira's place and what it meant for non binary and transwomen?

I pointed out that logically the existence of Beira's Place would mean less of a drain on resources on those other places that would provide a service to transwomen, so it should be welcomed.

Immediate block of course.

Ugh! Pink News, figures.

ALL the existing services for women are mixed sex and very heavily weighted towards the prioritising of male service users. In fact the female service users are only allowed in the women's services if they are male-focused and will not in any way upset a male service user.

There will be one solitary option for females who want a female only service. Females who would prefer a mixed sex service? They've got all the choices. There's a whole wealth of places to go for help.

Now look at who is grudging females who are excluded from women's services one solitary place to go ?

And think about what that says about those people.

I hope Kaite Welsh is okay, fortunately there is somewhere else for in Edinburgh. Perhaps performative wokery is therapeutic? I hope the lovebombing from the other woke performers is worth it. But maybe actually try actually 'being kind'? It's not for you but it might be a lifesaver for someone else. Why begrudge them that?

For a woman who can't stomach gender bull there's somewhere for her too now.

Thanks to JKR.

Well Katie wouldn't need to go there. Katie go to Rape Crisis couldn't Katie.

That's the point.

But, if Katie wanted to go to Beira's Place, Katie could also do that.

Nobody actually cares where Katie goes, as long as Katie gets the support Katie needs. The addition of provision for women may even mean it's easier to be seen at Rape Crisis.

So what on earth is Katie complaining about? "It's not fair! There's more provision and it's easier to be seen at the place I want help from!" Righty-ho, Katie.

On it @CaveMum we don’t want the ‘expert’ here

That is indeed a sad message. And a fairly pointless virtue signal. If she really feels that the possibility of meeting males is especially helpful for dealing with her trauma it's ok, she's got all the other services to use.

I almost get it. We live in a man's world. I've spent much of my life being a cool girl man pleaser. It took many years after the incident for me to understand that I was experiencing PTSD. It is a scary place to realise you are just a boring statistic and that violence against women and girls is endemic. So I kind of envy her stance; I guess she thinks either that it was all her fault or that she can tell which males are going to be the abusive ones. I wonder if that gives a false feeling of power.

You’ve invoked the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing 😱

Go outside, turn around 3 times and spit, and curse 😜

<West Wing reference for y’there!>

Good grief. This sounds like something C Burns would say. Tragic handmaidenry.

The thing is, Kaite would be perfectly welcome there. And males with a trans identity are welcome in nearly every other rape crisis centre in Scotland. Why are they so determined to paint this in a negative light, rather as an addition resource. Surely if there is this resource for women, that frees places like ERC to concentrate on males with a trans identity, so everyone wins.

Katie Walsh sounds like someone who has been a victim more than once. That is a sad message

It’s just fantastic news, what a sweetheart she is.

If Joanna Cherry is otherwise engaged who was briefed alongside her for Marion Millar's case?

Oh noooooo. Sorry sorry!! I take it back. I’ll do the anti summoning rite immediately 😂😂😂

Same here!

Oh shit, you said the B word 😱

Nice thought, but she'd need the Scottish equivalent.