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Groundbreaking news: hold onto your hsts

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TinselAngel · 12/12/2022 07:40

The "organisation" which has replaced "Steph's Place" has big news and there just isn't enough popcorn in the world:

twitter.com/translucent_org/status/1601975586745991172?s=46&t=AlyQNI2D7U0IazR4qvSMwA

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BelenaConhamHarter · 12/12/2022 22:35

Somebody somewhere is potentially going to make an absolute mountain of cash churning out affirmative trans tests.

Shame Elizabeth Holmes isn't looking into new projects at the moment.

Helleofabore · 12/12/2022 21:18

GromblesofGrimbledon · 12/12/2022 21:06

Heh.

Hehehe.

Hehehehehehehehehheeh!

Yes grombles - they tell us who they are every single time don’t they?

GromblesofGrimbledon · 12/12/2022 21:06

Heh.

Hehehe.

Hehehehehehehehehheeh!

Groundbreaking news: hold onto your hsts
TinselAngel · 12/12/2022 20:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/12/2022 18:55

Haha! That was autocorrected from "hats" but is actually appropriate.

That typo is CLASS! GrinWine

It's weird because I don't think I type HSTS more often than I type hats! Maybe it's a special FWR autocorrect.

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Sophoclesthefox · 12/12/2022 20:28

HipTightOnions · 12/12/2022 18:13

Ok, let's go with it, let's suppose there really is a biological reason why some people think they are the opposite sex.

So what? That doesn't mean they're right.

Exactly.

OK. You found a biological mechanism that causes people believe that their gender (sic) does not match their sexed body.

Now what?

Male bodies and female bodies still exist, humans are still sexually dimorphic, male people who have this variation are still male, and female people who have it are still female.

Literally nothing changes.

It’s very telling that the reaction to more information potentially coming to light about an issue are met with howls of outrage. What other conditions which are apparently so grave as to drive people to the brink of suicide are characterised by the people suffering from them objecting to research? Confused

Bonkers.

KatMcBundleFace · 12/12/2022 20:19

Your average TRA sees brains like this

Groundbreaking news: hold onto your hsts
KatMcBundleFace · 12/12/2022 20:18

There is some tiny (and I mean tiny) research projects which "show" brains same sex attracted transwomen have similarities to brains of hetrosexual females.

There are other studies showing people with gender dysphoria have different brains to people who don't have gender dysphoria. Pink News did a report on this, but later scrapped it, because it didn't fit the lady brain narrative.

All the studies are too small in sample size to prove or disprove anything.

The only provable difference between male and female brains is size.
Meta analysis here👇
twitter.com/Lise_Eliot/status/1373315409475072001?s=20&t=bfExdZhdHAXrTF-nz6bc4g

OlleOskiFelle · 12/12/2022 20:08

This is marvellous!!!

OmiOmy · 12/12/2022 20:04

Is this like Jennifer Anniston saying "here comes the science - concentrate"?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/12/2022 18:55

Haha! That was autocorrected from "hats" but is actually appropriate.

That typo is CLASS! GrinWine

thirdfiddle · 12/12/2022 18:47

So when they recognise that a particular minuscule measurement of brain cells which can be made by posthumous dissection and has broad overlapping distributions which at the mean fall closer to the female mean in male transsexuals, and that may affect their life experiences...

Are we then allowed to recognise the large scale differences in physical body makeup with absolutely vanishingly small overlap and, amazingly, 99.9% + diagnosable with the naked eye at birth or even earlier with scientific instruments, and has a far larger chance of affecting our life experiences?

Hint: you needed to acknowledge the reality of the second to even do the former study.

Birdsweepsin · 12/12/2022 18:31

I was born in the bong, Roddy.

ApocalipstickNow · 12/12/2022 18:30

BedTaker · 12/12/2022 12:12

With all the talk of 'testing', I'm imagining like a 'trans' lateral flow test, where you swill a swab around your tonsils and nostrils and then within a few minutes it will tell you 'trans' or 'cis'!

Science is amazing isn't it?! Grin

Maybe it turns pink, blue or rainbow for the enbies.

nepeta · 12/12/2022 18:20

bellac11:

It used to be trans sexual years ago but now its trans gender which confuses me

A fun aspect of language in this area is that it changes so fast everybody except the in-group is always behind, and then will be corrected in a way which reads passive-aggressive to me. To avoid that, we have to keep checking what the approved language now might be.

So FTM and MTF are now not appropriate, I have been told, though transmasculine and transfeminine might be, but perhaps not, and so on.

All this raises the effort and energy needed for engaging with the topics, and that might be one intended effect, the other one being the deconstruction of all relevant language so that arguments become nearly impossible as nobody can know what some term really is supposed to mean. Like gender (meaning?) assigned (meaning?) at birth in medical questionnaires (which I now need to answer at my physician's office!).

wesayno · 12/12/2022 18:19

Hold onto your hsts 😂

HipTightOnions · 12/12/2022 18:13

Ok, let's go with it, let's suppose there really is a biological reason why some people think they are the opposite sex.

So what? That doesn't mean they're right.

bellac11 · 12/12/2022 17:57

Im slightly confused about the 'biological' bit, because gender isnt biological but sex is

Yet people on that twitter thread keep referring to biological research about being trans gender. Surely its trans sexual (if anything).They're referencing that the brain is associated with the opposite gender, surely they mean sex?

It used to be trans sexual years ago but now its trans gender which confuses me

DameMaud · 12/12/2022 17:54

MagpiePi · 12/12/2022 17:42

‘…a genuinely real research scientist expressing their own truth.’

I am actually laughing out loud at this

😂I can't tell.if that response is satire or... genuinely real?

If it's satire, it's genius.

MagpiePi · 12/12/2022 17:49

I am also imagining the ‘genuinely real research scientist’ dresses like this. But with a cock, beard and much, much bigger moobs

MagpiePi · 12/12/2022 17:42

‘…a genuinely real research scientist expressing their own truth.’

I am actually laughing out loud at this

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TinselAngel · 12/12/2022 17:40

KittyKlaws · 12/12/2022 15:04

Why did they change their name to a synonym for semi-transparent? Interesting choice.

Presumably all the good words starting with "trans" were taken.

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KittyKlaws · 12/12/2022 15:04

Why did they change their name to a synonym for semi-transparent? Interesting choice.

KatMcBundleFace · 12/12/2022 14:55

Apparently they think it will prove trans is more like an "intersex" condition, which will show the evil t*rfs.
Several of the characters shouting "truth" about the paper have fathered children ffs. Nothing remotely ambiguous about their biological sex.

Oh and when a woman pipes up its good because then maybe now they will find a cure for gender dysphoria (which we are constantly told is cripplingly painful and terrible to endure), she is told she is a nazi. 😐

Honestly, they are such a mess.

Manderleyagain · 12/12/2022 13:34

Hold Onto Your HSTS is a great name for something - a news letter or blog? It would have to be something written rather than spoken.

Birdsweepsin · 12/12/2022 13:07

Why the hell schedule it for 5pm on a Friday?

Perfect time to open a glass of wine?

Because that's the same time Susie Green dumpage news came out?

Maximise Sunday papers coverage?

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