#EctoLife, the world’s first Artificial Womb Facility, which can incubate up to 30,000 babies a year.

Robots Humpty.

You forget the Robots who will feed them. Because the male who thinks this would ever be a good idea, wants these humans gestated devoid of the humanity that comes from the sounds and sensations of being carried in a woman.

And if their brain lacks that stimulation before birth, why bother with it after.

@nilsmousehammer
" Can we have a country with really tall walls where the old farts who don't want to participate in this utter nightmare and the inevitable consequences
can live? "

Perhaps for her next trick, we could persuade JKR to buy a nice big island somewhere nice and warm, for us all to go and live?
We could have basket weaving and bingo and most importantly, peace and quiet!

Can’t help but wonder if he’s pals with Dr Narendra Kaushik, whose plans to transplant a uterus into a trans woman were discussed in May by ethicists for the AMERICAN COUNCIL ON
SCIENCE AND HEALTH: Promoting science and debunking junk since 1978.

Could they perhaps take a look at even the simple suggestion in this BJOG nightmare from 2018 Uterine transplantation in transgender women that not allowing a TW to have a uterus Tx would constitute a breach of the equalities act?

Someone developing better incubator technology is lovely if, for example, it means [micro-]preemies wouldn’t have ongoing pulmonary issues/they’d be much milder. Or if they’d enable babies to spend less time in hospital. As a PP noted, even that inevitably leads to a push to try to save ever-younger preemies; which is in turn tangled into abortion-related legislation. This whole “inspired by Brave New World” set-up, though? Nooooooo.

It has been said many times now on any uterus transplant threads.

I believe it is males who have no idea how foetuses grow using the mother’s body. And that to have an implant that will grow a foetus will also require an other transplants. It is not ‘just a bag’. There is an entire system that pulls what it needs from other body parts. There will never be that connectivity in a male, so it will all be artificial.

Who the fuck wants to do this to human infants that grow into adults??? Who?? And who the fuck does it benefit?

It’s scary how this kind of thing, even just as concept, has no comprehension of the fact that the mother and child interact during pregnancy.

This would turn babies into a commodity, much as commercial (and most of so-called altruistic) surrogacy does. Which is why we need to oppose the practice with all of our might.

In the final instance this would result in unprotected children as property, either of the state as in Brave New World or corporations growing slave labour. Because as a species we always manage to stretch any advance into the unacceptable, inhumane use cases.

I was listening to a science podcast this weekend that mentioned that early medical trials of smallpox vaccines were performed on prisoners and orphans

that’s what happens to children who don’t have parents to protect them. They become a resource. This whole idea is monstrous

It's right there in the paedophile manifesto.

The main barrier for male people wishing to offend against children is female people, particularly mothers.

'The journalist who wrote the book did look at the idea that they could potentially be used for an entire gestation and that we could do away with pregnancy altogether'

I find it incredible that any woman in her right mind would choose to NOT gestate her own babies. In fact I'd go one step further and say unless a woman was prepared to carry her own child she shouldn't be having any at all.

MN caveat:
Obviously some (biological) women can't carry a baby full term and/or adopt but I'm talking about women who can just to stop anyone wailing about how I am insulting women who have trouble conceiving yada yada yada....

Community, identity, stability

Bit of a chilling coincidence that it spells 'CIS'.

This is terrifying, and I’m really sorry but my mind instantly went to more nefarious reasons why people (men) might want to create a readily available source of babies/children who don’t have a family (mother) to protect them

This is already a concern with surrogacy.

I just wonder so much about people pushing this idea. Haven’t they heard about the Romanian orphanages? People who don’t know anything about child development perhaps shouldn’t be designing baby factories, even fantasy baby factories. And even a rudimentary knowledge should make it obvious how evil this would be if the baby-growing technology actually worked.

"A squat gray building of only thirty-four stories. Over the main entrance the words, CENTRAL LONDON HATCHERY AND CONDITIONING CENTRE, and in a shield, the World State’s motto, Community, Identity, Stability."

And so it begins

I read an article (think it was on the BBC) about something similar to this, a month or so ago. And droves of women in the comments saying oh this would be brilliant, giving birth is awful.

I thought, clearly none of you have read brave new world.

This is terrifying, and I’m really sorry but my mind instantly went to more nefarious reasons why people (men) might want to create a readily available source of babies/children who don’t have a family (mother) to protect them. ☹️

Well... I hope that the shed you have your lines of plug in incubators are warm in this cold snap.

And will you have enough to share around?

I love men and am growing some of my own.

That's the sweetest thing I've heard all weekend. Hope the potting compost is good!

The thing is we've seen repeated ad nauseum: evil is shoehorned in on top of the heart rending. It's how it's done. That's how grooming works.

Can we have a country with really tall walls where the old farts who don't want to participate in this utter nightmare and the inevitable consequences can live? And not have to spend the next few decades being endlessly wailed at and expected to sort it out?

Would it not be a simpler world plan to create ginormous reserves of sperm somewhere cold and continue with humanity being entirely comprised of women, using the sperm to have female children?*

*I'm joking. I love men and am growing some of my own.

It's a grift. I'd be willing to bet there are wealthy tw who'd be prepared to throw their money away invest in this.

I saw someone recently announce that India might be trialing technology to replicate the uterus for saving late term fetuses and presumably premature babies.

And a trans person twisted it into something else.

Remember that thread where a regular name changer tried to convince us that growing a baby in a bag was just a few years away. But couldn’t acknowledge that the ethics committee dictating research on embryos and foetuses was nowhere near allowing that kind of experimentation.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's brain went straight to Huxley's Brave New World!

The sci fi version is bad enough, let's hope this never becomes actual reality.

I noticed that - surely falling birth rates aren't that much to do with actual pregnancy anyway, but all the stuff after like you've said. Saying it will benefit the countries makes it sound like the state would just order some future workers babies. Not sure who would look after them.

Interesting that one of the benefits highlighted is combatting falling birthrates in some countries. Surely providing accessible childcare, great maternity benefits etc would be a cheaper and easier booster?

In the absence of a "like post" button; LIKE.

This is the question that needs to be asked.

Thankfully this sort of so called technology is the same sort of disturbed male fantasy as implantation of a womb into a male bodied person