New radio 4 programme starting January will feature Andrew Doyle interviewing Owen Jones

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miri1985 · 07/01/2023 05:16

It will be starting from next Thursday at 11pm, only has the detail for that first ep on the radio 4 website so don't know what date the OJ ep will be

"Diversity of opinion, thought-provoking debate and comedy. Andrew Doyle talks to Billy Bragg about cancel culture, and comedy from Rosie Wilby, Wilson Milton, and Tadiwa Mahlunge." www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001hfrz

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EasterIsland · 11/12/2022 19:07

I have an inappropriate crush on Andrew Doyle. I want to be his best friend <sigh> He'll eat LOJ for brekker.

hallouminatus · 11/12/2022 17:32

Thread about the pilot, including link to listen again: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4484507-Unsafe-Spaces-Radio-4

hallouminatus · 11/12/2022 17:27

The pilot for this show, "unsafe space", has already been broadcast. It didn't feature Owen Jones, but did include a short interview with David Lammy talking about cancel culture. Disappointingly, he wasn't questioned his beliefs that women are rights-hoarding dinosaurs and transwomen can growing cervices. I suspect he had a veto on what questions he could be asked. If OJ does the same it may be a rather bland interview.

IrmaGord · 11/12/2022 10:02

Although if you actually never tweet or retweet at all it’s hard to know how he would even know you exist.

Exactly. Plus I don't even follow him. I agree with him about blocking people you disagree with etc. and it's not a 'gotcha!' when people go on about free speech. Blocking someone on Twitter is not the same as deplatforming or cancelling.

I just don't understand why he's blocked me in particular. If he ever popped up on my feed, it was because an account I followed had retweeted him and I usually agreed with what he said. I don't understand why he'd go to the the bother of doing it.

beastlyslumber · 11/12/2022 09:08

I find it hard to believe this is really happening! Andrew Doyle would make mincemeat of LOJ.

Signalbox · 11/12/2022 09:08

miri1985 · 10/12/2022 14:07

Was just listening to a podcast that interviewed Jon Holmes and apparently hes put together a radio series starting in January that will feature among other things Andrew Doyle interviewing Owen Jones
podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93aGF0bW9zdHBlb3BsZXRoaW5rLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz/episode/ZWU0NDk4ZjktNGU2OC00OTg0LTk5ZTktMjhiMTUxNzc0MWY1?hl=en-IE&ved=2ahUKEwjupv-rnO_7AhWOi1wKHQO0CWMQjrkEegQIEhAF&ep=6
From 59:50

I can’t believe that OJ has agreed to this. Surely AD would fall into the category of fascist transphobe.

Signalbox · 11/12/2022 09:05

Signalbox · 11/12/2022 09:01

If your account is private that’ll probably be why he blocked you. Many people on twitter block those with private accounts because you can see them but they can’t see who you are or what you are saying.

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Although if you actually never tweet or retweet at all it’s hard to know how he would even know you exist.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/12/2022 09:03

I will be fascinated to see how this plays out.

Signalbox · 11/12/2022 09:01

IrmaGord · 10/12/2022 14:18

Andrew Doyle blocked me on Twitter. No idea why as my account is private, but I don't tweet anyway, I just use it to follow news. I wasn't following him and I've never interacted with him either.

If your account is private that’ll probably be why he blocked you. Many people on twitter block those with private accounts because you can see them but they can’t see who you are or what you are saying.

PermanentTemporary · 11/12/2022 08:59

Oh that sounds good. I like OJ in many ways. Agree that twitter brings out the worst in him (everyone?)

sashagabadon · 11/12/2022 08:56

I’ve heard Andrew Doyle say that he is pro free speech and against cancel culture where people lose their jobs etc but will happily block people on Twitter as that is what the block button is for and people should be free to say what they want but he doesn’t have to hear it.
He basically thinks everyone should just block people rather than mass reporting to try and get Twitter to suspend them. I think that’s probably a good approach.

sashagabadon · 11/12/2022 08:51

I think things like this are actually very positive and a sign a lot of people on the tra no debate side are taking the opportunity to row back a bit ( I think as the penny has dropped they are not on the right side of history after all)

KatMcBundleFace · 11/12/2022 08:44

IrmaGord · 10/12/2022 14:18

Andrew Doyle blocked me on Twitter. No idea why as my account is private, but I don't tweet anyway, I just use it to follow news. I wasn't following him and I've never interacted with him either.

Ditto.

Absolutely no idea why.

And I'm blocked by LOJ but that's because I said I disagreed with him.

TheBiologyStupid · 11/12/2022 01:10

TheKeatingFive · 10/12/2022 14:16

Well this will be fun 🍿

Yup, can't wait!

dropthevipers · 10/12/2022 22:47

Believe this when I hear it, because for this happen will mean talcum knowingly breathing the same air as a TERF.

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miri1985 · 10/12/2022 17:43

TheKeatingFive · 10/12/2022 14:22

Will LOJ have the balls to go through with it? I'm not sure.

I think its already been recorded. Jon Holmes said he was currently editing the series.

Billy Bragg is also being interviewed, I'm not sure if thats by Andrew Doyle too it wasn't clear

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BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 10/12/2022 17:37

It’s always a pleasant surprise when you find a topic which you can agree upon with His Littleness.

ArabellaScott · 10/12/2022 17:32

He and Butter gasp have had cross words before, iirc.

ResisterRex · 10/12/2022 17:29

TheKeatingFive · 10/12/2022 17:21

I found myself agreeing with LOJ the other day on the topic of Meghan Markle (of all people). Felt very odd. 😆

Did you? I saw him disagreeing with Buttergasp on the matter!!

twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1601228554360193025?s=46&t=97U4WzIjzn4lU0iqjWUd9w

That was enough Twitter for me!

TheKeatingFive · 10/12/2022 17:21

I found myself agreeing with LOJ the other day on the topic of Meghan Markle (of all people). Felt very odd. 😆

Manderleyagain · 10/12/2022 17:19

I would definitely tune in for this. Owen jones interviews people with v different views to himself on his own YouTube channel and does so really well from what I've seen (I have only seen 2 or 3) so it's good to hear he is doing this. I don't read his columns but in those interviews I've seen he has a v different persona to how he comes across on twitter. I quite liked him (confessions of a mumsnetter!).

LizzieSiddal · 10/12/2022 17:09

Gosh this is something I dream about 😂

FemaleAndLearning · 10/12/2022 15:41

Will it be a recorded interview that LOJ gets to comment and edit before it goes out. Andrew Doyle is a master of debate.

SulisMinerva · 10/12/2022 15:29

Will LOJ have the balls to go through with it? I'm not sure.

I don’t think he will. The purity spiral on the Left will be a potential problem for him to navigate.