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LGTBQ Nation questions 'genderfluid' Brinton's conversion therapy story

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ArabellaScott · 08/12/2022 19:16

Sam Brinton, currently awaiting trial for theft of a woman's suitcase:

'The red flags regarding Brinton were overwhelming and obvious to all who cared to see them. Unfortunately, some of America’s top LGBTQ+ activists and organizations were willfully blind to Brinton’s shortcomings.
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These organizations, such as the Trevor Project and the National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR), ignored clear warning signs and incontrovertible evidence because Brinton provided these groups with a seemingly perfect ex-gay survivor story to expose horrific conversion therapy practices and ideology.'

www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/12/sam-brintons-story-always-good-true/

Brinton's descriptions of his experiences:

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AraberylScott · 10/12/2022 11:28

'Brinton presented a seminar a fortnight ago named: 'Spanking: From Calculus To Chemistry.'

The bio goes on to say: 'They have been active in the kink world since 2013, host monthly kink parties in their dungeon in Washington, DC, and estimate they have spanked over 2,000 cute butts.'' - from the Mail article.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 10/12/2022 11:15

Why on earth do women assume the best?

I thought that comment was a joke? Though the design of the suitcase is significant - he will have known it was a woman’s case he was stealing.

AraberylScott · 10/12/2022 11:13

If someone feels moved to steal two suitcases, surely this shows just how absent-minded and forgetful they is? Or how much they loves certain special stylish suitcases? Only the prurient would suggest this is some kind of pattern or was sexually motivated.

TinselAngel · 10/12/2022 10:12

Helleofabore · 09/12/2022 09:40

Well, wasn't the one they are getting sentenced for a very stylish suitcase?? I mean.... maybe it wasn't just about the panties. A stylish suitcase is very desirable these days and it takes a while to get that 'lived in' look that money doesn't seem to be able to buy....

Why on earth do women assume the best? FGS Hellofaberyl!

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ArabellaScott · 10/12/2022 09:53

Some interesting stats in here:

www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/12/09/gop-jump-on-biden-official-sam-brintons-2nd-theft-allegation-blames-wokeness/?sh=5203c81a4c45

'A 2017 Pew Research poll found 32% of U.S. adults believe society has “gone too far in accepting transgender people,” including 57% of Republicans and 12% of Democrats. A follow-up Pew Research poll in June found 60% of Americans believe gender is determined by the sex people are assigned at birth, including 86% of Republicans and 38% of Democrats. Nearly two-thirds of respondents 65 years and older agreed, compared to half of people ages 18-29.'

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ArabellaScott · 10/12/2022 09:52

I wonder if such a high profile fetishist will open some more eyes to the fact that fetishes are paraphilias, and many of them are non-consensual by their nature.

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Faffertea · 10/12/2022 09:45

There is no limit to what men will fetishise. DS was born very premature so I had to express milk for him while he was in NICU. One of the nurses told me you can make a fortune selling breast milk on eBay 🤢

IvyTwines · 10/12/2022 09:15

@ArabellaScott yes there was even a Madness song about it back in the day, 'In the Middle of the Night'. Nice, jaunty man in the shop with a dark secret who slinks away once unmasked. I think it's a thing on Ebay too, according to past Mumsnet threads!

Feckedupbundle · 10/12/2022 08:50

*Chersfrozenface" yes,I had underwear stolen from a changing room at a swimming pool,and years ago a man in our village was caught punching underwear off a washing line.
He was chased down the street by the owner,who was wielding a horse whip.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/12/2022 07:28

Look at the DM account of the state of the RCN with such extreme misogyny that their annual conference had to be cancelled because women wouldn't be safe 😱

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9939711/Bondage-fan-suspended-Royal-College-Nursing-chairman.html

No wonder the NHS is so easily captured.

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 10/12/2022 02:41

So was Dave Dawes cleared, as he so confidently predicted?

unwashedanddazed · 10/12/2022 02:21

It's always no true Scotsman once they get caught.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/12/2022 00:03

Berthatydfil · 09/12/2022 09:48

Apparently he has spoken at bondage and spanking workshops- who knew these were a thing ?

I believe they're quite a thing in the Royal College of Nursing where their chief was a fan of bondage workshops and was suspended for a range of issues including open hostility to women.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9c075b72-08e8-11ec-922b-9339a9da8961?shareToken=000f15b1c1ccaabd6bde634883fcdff4

ArabellaScott · 09/12/2022 22:39

Christ, Sazzasez, that's awful!

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Sazzasez · 09/12/2022 21:39

Years ago as a student I lost a pair of knickers off the washing line in the back garden. I thought perhaps I hadn’t pegged them securely & they’d blown off.

A few days later someone put them through the door. The gusset had been chopped out of them.

TheBiologyStupid · 09/12/2022 16:15

TheirEminence · 09/12/2022 07:28

I respect the journalist who put this story together and who warns that giving charlatans a platform will only hurt gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. I feel the story sums up much of what has happened over the last few years.

Obvious questions not being asked, shameless lies and self-promotion overlooked, major organisations falling over themselves to recruit a poster child, no due diligence … all very familiar.

Absolutely!

Abccde · 09/12/2022 15:38

Men don't have fetishises .

Or is it only a fetish when they get found out and they are now embarrassing you and people are asking the questions you can't answer?

You can't support his behaviour and then all of a sudden say he's lying. We need to accept every man who claims to be a woman as female so it needs to be accepted that Brinton is as much a LBGT whatever other letters as anyone else?

(Ps i don't agree with the above- but it's what we are being told every single day)

Helleofabore · 09/12/2022 15:00

twitter.com/moleatthedoor/status/1601216580767330305?s=20&t=uLa5jt-ZCVNObj1lhyiS3w

Has this been posted yet?

Love Moley!!!

FunnyTalks · 09/12/2022 14:59

Berthatydfil · 09/12/2022 09:48

Apparently he has spoken at bondage and spanking workshops- who knew these were a thing ?

There's nothing as sexy as a good workshop

Theundertaker · 09/12/2022 14:47

I wonder if any of the comedian/political commentators have commented on this story at all. John Oliver, Seth Myers, Trevor Noah, etc.

bellinisurge · 09/12/2022 14:44

He's been caught doing it again

Berthatydfil · 09/12/2022 09:48

Apparently he has spoken at bondage and spanking workshops- who knew these were a thing ?

Helleofabore · 09/12/2022 09:47

On the other hand, if that author 'Wayne Besen' is right, then questions about this persons experiences have been being raised for a decade. And ignored.

I have no doubt that Wayne Besen is absolutely pissed off because potentially, he has been working very hard to amplify conversion therapy survivors voices and ensuring they are supported and those therapies rightfully banned and more importantly truly eradicated.

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