Cass review captured? Prepare for disappointment

I'm just not seeing it. Sorry.

I read that and agree that it indicated a level of ideological capture in contrast to the factual / ethical /safeguarding / child centred approach in the interim review and the NHS proposals.
Given the extreme levels of capture in the NHS and open dismantling of safe child health care as evidenced at GIDs it's not surprising that trans zealots will criticise healthcare proposals that centre children's needs and safety rather than fly the trans flag.

It's fairly neutral and unbiased. I think some people need to remember that the idea of Cass is to shape a service that will be used and will be effective.

Yea, this is about the Cass Review’s submission to the NHSE consultation. The Cass Review’s submission is very muddy and worrying, particularly around social transition and the NHSE recommendation that families obtaining PBs/CSH via unregulated providers should be referred for safeguarding procedures. The Cass Review is arguing this will lead these parents to avoid the NHS. I would argue such safeguards are desirable, that it will put off parents who might be wavering or under pressure from their child to go to GenderGP and the remaining ones who ignore the risks and safeguarding issues and proceed anyway, should be subject to safeguarding referral. To turn a blind eye to GenderGP children is dangerous.

Yeah, I read it (admittedly skimmed much of it) and it seemed fairly non committal and reasonable.

I mean, it's not taking a GC stance but it hasn't shifted towards the other side either.

I wondered that but I don't see what the fuss is all about if it is.

I'm not clear, but I wonder if it's referring to the first publication listed here, which is the Cass Review's response to NHS England's consultation on the Draft interim service specification for specialist gender dysphoria services for children and young people:

cass.independent-review.uk/publications/

I'm confused. Is this discussion referring to the actual document on the review page or Twitter interpretations of this?

NICE and NHSE are captured to the extent that their public-facing and admin staff use pronouns in their signatures refer to pregnant people in some recent guidelines, and use Stonewall material in their EDI training and assessments.

They're supposed to be neutral.

I have quite a bit to say about this (I find it very worrying) but no time at the moment. There’s quite a good thread about it here:

twitter.com/nurtural_uk/status/1600190119238983680?s=61&t=RrzdQ2z99dWGTI-cztfGyQ

It’s mostly about the fact that the Cass Review is built on “consensus” where there a lack of evidence, but consensus is only going to result in effectively the same model as the moment, save children on PBs going into a trial, and we know there is no evidence so the whole thing will end up being built on “consensus”!

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