Women's rights general conversations

Well, they'll have to adjust to the new reality - it's not fun unless everyone is having fun.

The comments are disheartening. Seem like the lads don't like their 'fun' being stopped.

The first man to be convicted of cat calling a woman in a town centre. Is it a good sign? I mean, will a few more of these idiots being taken to task teach other not to behave so?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562517/Man-catcalled-woman-one-UK-100-fine-sexual-harassment.html

A man who catcalled a woman on a London street has become one of the first in the UK to be slapped with a £100 fine for sexual harassment after he was caught in an undercover police operation.

The offender - who was not named - was issued a fixed penalty notice for harassing a woman in Ilford town centre last Friday.

The fee was handed to the offender using the council's Public Space Protection Order (PSPO). The PSPO was created initially to empower council enforcement officers to fine people soliciting sex in the area.

If you can change it then it really isn't sex any more, unfortunately.

There was a trans activist on Radio 4 last night. She was very amenable, no frothing and rage but I wish she'd been pulled up on one thing. She said that all this Scot's thing amounted to was being allowed to change your gender on your birth certificate. All the other complexities aside I wanted the interviewer to say, "It's sex on the birth certificate not gender."

@CyanCyan , that's a good article, particularly where the person is pushed to report something as a hate crime for the statistics. I think that there are a lot of innocents being dragged into a lie that they have been led to believe is the truth. I believed it, why wouldn't someone who is being told that victimhood is a core part of their personality. You can't just be trans or non-binary or ... you must also be a victim of bigotry and possible violence. Some people though, those at the top of the TRA know that it's all lies and they should be ashamed of themselves. The similarities between TRA and MRA are notable.

A note on what's happened in Scotland that may give us something to feel better about... Labour plans to bring in same measures if elected in a general election. The storm this has caused in Scotland and the massive pushback just might give them pause for thought. Also we have the House of Lords which the Scottish Parliament doesn't. Chin up! It's not over yet.

I haven't read this yet but Maya recommends it so I will when I get time later..

Helpful article by Michael Foran on the interaction between the GRA, the Equality Act and the Scotland Act

Tldr: UK gov could suspend enactment of GRR until they sort out the Equality Act

twitter.com/MForstater/status/1605517022091104257?s=20&t=cD35UJFdzgEH8u8OXypCcQ

This is also a good summary (even if it is the critic):

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/

Hang in there, sisters! (Sorry, making myself angry again)

They can just identity as blokes, probably.

The only surprise with the Taliban is that they took this long.

That's a good article, @Winterborne74 . Thanks for the link. The conference looks really interesting although I doubt I'll get to it.

Wrt women's education I see that to no one's great surprise the Taliban have closed off university education to women as of immediately. Jeremy Clarkson should think about moving to Afghanistan given the similarities of his and the Taliban's views on women.

Thanks, kuc.

What's the policy on mumsnet regarding mentioning the works of Blanchard, say, or Lawrence?

In another place, there seemed to be a blanket that descended whenever I raised the issue of the need to understand and quantify any segmentation the trans population.

Karen Ingala Smith’s blog deals with this well, in case you haven’t already seen it @IReallyLikeCrows

kareningalasmith.com/2021/04/21/counting-dead-trans-people/

I won’t be there unfortunately, but I hope this event passes peacefully. Fear it will be targeted though.

blogs.ucl.ac.uk/feminism/about/news/

There is so much "information" out there claiming that transwomen are at more risk of murder due to transphobia that I started believing it. No longer.

I was actually rather cheered by the responses to this:

twitter.com/free_equal/status/1604945976086634511

FFS, great work going on in Scotland. I know there’s a specific thread for this too but meh.

@MissLawls
I also heard the LBC interview with Caroline Flack's mum. Heartbreaking. When certain elements of the press take against a woman - and it nearly always is a woman - they really do show no mercy.

Not just the press. I read the comments below the line on Suzanne Moore's latest article in the Telegraph. I don't know how long she'll be able to hang on there because the readers hate her.

It’s like lockdown, isn’t it. Some may thrive with a prolonged social media outage, others will suffer. Many people depend on social media for the majority of their social interactions. If it allows people who otherwise would struggle to have meaningful social connections, then that’s a good thing.

I think I need to do social media better, rather than stopping it altogether. I find myself being drawn into being occupied by all manner of nonsense, rather than those things which improve the quality of my life - I like learning about new things and social media is great for developing new enthusiasms and following interesting new people. I don’t have a lot of mental energy to dedicate myself to research or projects, so following those who do can be really enriching for me. I’d miss that if it stopped.

I don't see any chance of this happening, but a period of no social media for anyone would probably do society no harm. I'm thinking maybe 6 months.

There is a widespread derangement and I am thinking a period of no social media (including mumsnet) is essential this christmas.

Yep have been following that thread also in despair.