Women's rights general conversations

This is my experience of talking to men IRL about porn, they have heard that some women enjoy it (do they? Really? I don't think so) from somewhere and this excuses all critical thought and the deafening shouts that most women are exploited, abused, trafficked and addicted where it isn't just a straight up assault recorded and uploaded to a porn site.

They lie to themselves that it's ok and that the women being hurt by porn/prostitution are in the minority (how many is too many?) and put their own sexual desires above anything else, because they are selfish and don't believe women.

You can have a co-op and all be looking out for each other and still get beaten up, still get fucked in ways you haven't agreed to, still have men do what they want and not pay. You can all be looking out for each other and still be murdered. Women during the Yorkshire ripper days were trying to be safe and it didn't work because sex workers are more likely to be murdered because they are in vulnerable situations and when they're murdered there still remains the notion that they were asking for it. If they were nice, decent women it wouldn't happen. Of course it can and does but prostitution puts women in the most unsafe situation. That's not complicated and prostitutes know this but are caught in a vice. Why is drug addiction and alcoholism prevalent in the profession? Because it dulls the pain. Not complex. Straightforward and all because men think it's okay to buy something they think they have a right to.

Once they left his life, they stopped existing. In his mind, they are perpetually frozen as they were then.

They could not have reflected on their experiences, they will not have worked through pyschological trauma, or spoken to anyone else about it, because he did not see it. In the years since, they could have told their sisters, their daughters, their best friends that it was awful, but if they told one man that it was okay at the time, his word outweighs theirs. Forever.

Women's testimony is always worth less than a man's.

Apparently that bloke ‘knows’ stuff rather than just pontificating about it.

Remarkable.

Plus ca change.

Exit services also know. Addiction support is an integral strand to their work.

Thanks to complete bellends telling everyone that women in the sex trade find it empowering, these charities and non-profits don't get many donations as they should. They always need money. Find your local service today.

Yours,

The Neighbourhood Watch

And did you go and talk to those women to understand whether they had other prospects and opportunities, safe homes and loving families who could support them if they left?

I really suspect that you only have ever thought about this superficially.

You seem to mistake ‘safe work environment’ and ‘it was a co-op’ to mean they must all be there because they absolutely love being fucked in any orifice a man wishes. You have not once answered whether these women ever had the ability, the opportunities and the support to do anything other than getting fucked by a punter who wanted to exploit women.

Do you know?

Were they Oxford graduates with no money issues, no drug habits whatever to pay for? Could have have had a better paying job?

Did that ‘co-op’ have a pension plan?

I mean, you know women lose their fuck value as they age?

You are hiding behind ‘it was well-regulated’ as some kind of fucked up life line for ignoring the truth about those women’s situations.

honestly, have you spoken to any one of them in the 20-30 years since?

So many good candidates this year! JKR, KJK, Maya Forstater, the list goes on.

Are you going to do another thread for it?

Someone should, for sure. Is @WarOnWomen still around? (she did all the real work last time)

True, could be an additional category this year?

I just scanned down the list of women on the first page of last years thread and it was a nice palate cleanser, seeing a list of so many wonderful, strong, intelligent women's names really cheered me up!

Quote fail hat. Sorry

So many good candidates this year! JKR, KJK, Maya Forstater, the list goes on.

I think those three are on it every year. They need a lifetime achievement award or something

Fuck sake mate just look at Germany where women and girls are being trafficked in to the legal mega brothels

yuck. Ffs what’s wrong with you

There's none so fucking blind as those that won't see. I find you offensive and reading your posts have genuinely made me feel like I need a wash to get the yuck off.

So many good candidates this year! JKR, KJK, Maya Forstater, the list goes on.

Are you going to do another thread for it?

Not of those women, but I obviously know nothing about trafficking

Yeah do one if you think that suddenly women and girls have such a great time being protstited now.

do one mate

Oh, and there were well regulated places

Les Girls in Soho closed in 2008 or 2009 because of the economic crisis, it was still a co-op and the only bloke involved was just hired like a bouncer

Do you accept that your perception could well be wrong about the freedom those women had?

Or are you just going to keep saying it is complicated?

Or you could just quietly go away, repellent views and all. Like I said, you aren't required to reply to quotes.

Why do some people think they're obliged to respond if they're quoted?

Anyhow - I found the 2020 FWR women of the year awards thread, I don't think we had one last year if anyone wants to take a look.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4120841-OFFICIAL-FWR-Women-of-the-Year-Awards-2020?reply=103149695

(if)

This was 25-30 years ago

Anyway, again, I'll piss off of people stop quoting me

but the sudden increase in income from sex work isn't great for drug addicts

Yes. We know. We discuss prostituted women quite often.

There's no law that states you are required to reply.

Feel free to shut up any time...

Och just fuck off. It’s a tenner a blow job round where I live

all the trendy sex workers. People like u damage women. Thers no such thing as a well regulated place. Apart from in your luxury belief cos you will never have to suck off a guy for a tenner

I keep getting quoted