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Girl Got A New Haircut. Father Shocked By The Things Strangers Now Say To Her.

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Onnabugeisha · 04/12/2022 19:05

From US HuffPost

My Daughter Got A New Haircut. I'm Shocked By The Things Strangers Now Say To Her.

"Our 12-year-old daughter would like to pee without being harassed. Lately, she can’t seem to escape it."

Article: www.huffpost.com/entry/daughter-short-haircut-harassment_n_6384dd5ae4b06ef4a546c8a5?utm_campaign=share_email&ncid=other_email_o63gt2jcad4

OP posts:
bellinisurge · 04/12/2022 21:49

Short hair on women and girls used to be totally run of the mill Now it's seen as some kind of declaration

BorgQueen · 04/12/2022 21:42

Funny how hordes of 50+ Women aren’t being challenged 🙄
Most of us have short hair. I’ve seen plenty of Female students at the local college with short punky hair too.

DdraigGoch · 04/12/2022 21:36

@Onnabugeisha we'd all be interested to hear your own thoughts

WhiteFire · 04/12/2022 20:39

RoseslnTheHospital · 04/12/2022 20:15

It's sad how much we've regressed since I was a 12 year old girl. It goes to show how obsessed people seem to be these days about sex based stereotypes. It's caused by this illogical obsession with gender identity. The idea that there's some sort of scale of maleness and femaleness that can be judged by the visible choices someone makes about their appearance. So short hair is heavily coded as indicating "maleness", regardless of the sex of the individual. So regressive.

And the author just plays right into that. For someone who supposedly feels so strongly about his daughter's experience, he sure plays into the gender handbook.

KitchenFleur · 04/12/2022 20:28

When I (46) was at primary school there were quite a few girls with short hair, and long hair was rarely much below shoulder length. Girls often wore plain t shirts, jeans, unisex trainers, PE kit was exactly the same for boys and girls.

When ds (22) was at primary there were 3 girls with short hair, most with shoulder length hair and a few with longer hair. Clothes were a little more separated by gender stereotypes, but there wasn’t the sea of pink that’s so common now.

My youngest has just left primary, the vast majority of girls have very long hair, one has shoulder length hair, one had short hair, and I understand is identifying as non binary (at age 11). Up until the age where girls ditch pink for grey hoodies and leggings there is now a big gap between boy clothes and girl clothes, and very little flexibility for girls which was the norm 40 years ago.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/12/2022 20:18

Yes i agree roses

no comment of your own OP?

RoseslnTheHospital · 04/12/2022 20:15

It's sad how much we've regressed since I was a 12 year old girl. It goes to show how obsessed people seem to be these days about sex based stereotypes. It's caused by this illogical obsession with gender identity. The idea that there's some sort of scale of maleness and femaleness that can be judged by the visible choices someone makes about their appearance. So short hair is heavily coded as indicating "maleness", regardless of the sex of the individual. So regressive.

pattihews · 04/12/2022 20:07

All a girl has to do is to open her mouth and say 'I'm a girl' and everything's all right. Butch lesbians sometimes get challenged — quite rightly, because women are allowed to notice and check who's using their facilities. As soon as they smile and say that they're female the woman who challenged them knows and usually apologises and they agree you need to be careful these days.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/12/2022 19:42

And?? I’m assuming this is intended to be some kind of “ooooh see you can’t tell sex on sight and women are mean too” gotcha

Beamur · 04/12/2022 19:38

It's so dumb. My DD has short hair because she likes short hair. She recently got asked if she was trans of some sort by some random teen girl she'd never spoken to before..

lanadelgrey · 04/12/2022 19:35

Until DS’s voice broke and he shot up, he had this going into the men’s.

EsmaCannonball · 04/12/2022 19:34

Most of the women and girls when I was school and university had short hair. We've certainly regressed if short hair now only signifies male. I know a British man who worked in America in the same period. Americans used to think he was gay because he didn't have long hair.

CountZacular · 04/12/2022 19:30

OP, do you think this didn’t happen before? It was a common theme in my school. Short hair on girls meant being bullied, physically attacked and called a lesbian. And not just by other girls.

It’s gender stereotypes that cause this. Having regressive thoughts that long hair means girls, short hair boys. Unfortunately gender identity has pushed those stereotypes and sold the story that if you do display opposite stereotypes, you must actually be the opposite sex. It’s such a ludicrous and regressive ideology, isn’t it OP?

FemaleAndLearning · 04/12/2022 19:18

Gender identity ideology has made this worse. I was mistaken for a boy when I was about 12. But now the kids at school ask if you are trans just cos you have short hair.

Notanotherusername4321 · 04/12/2022 19:11

Gender stereotype, sorry. Not gender identity.

Notanotherusername4321 · 04/12/2022 19:11

Been happening since I was a kid in the 70’s.

I was told I needed to use the mens toilets, purely because I had short hair on a couple of occasions.

probably worse now though as not conforming to gender identity = trans.