Detransitioners: put the fatted calf away please.

Yes, just as we have different demographics transitioning for different reasons, so we have different demographics de-transitioning for different reasons. It really doesn't serve anyone well to treat this as one homogeneous group.

Oh an uncomfortable conversation. Yes!

Well I'm avoiding thinking of it...

I think a friend of mine is detransitioning. On the one hand I struggle to forgive this individual for the abuse of my trust and for insulting my intelligence but then again what's the point of bearing a grudge?

One thing I can't do is pretend it never happened... but there's a need for some brushing under the carpet so we can move on...

I'm conflicted... they found it so easy to throw me under the bus and dismiss my views and see me as evil. I feel like a pushover.

Detrainitioners have a very important role to play in highlighting the brainwashing and cult-like aspects of gender ideology.
I will not denounce Detrainitioners or disregard what they have to say in the slightest. Young females who detrans from a transmale identity, or young gay males who experienced gender dysphoria then came to terms with their effeminate gay male identity.
These people need to be heard. Their stories are important.

At the same time- Recognise an AGP when you see one.
I don't give a damn about a bloke's fetish or if they changed their minds about going public about their fetish. These people are not worth a bat of my eyelid.

Round of applause Tinsel.

I read the article and I can't muster up any sympathy for this attention seeking man.

Wise and powerful words Tinsel, and we would all do well to heed them.

So it wasn’t actually realising their true inner person, the person they have always been then. I’m amazed. Just as well they didn’t try to realise their true inner person with irreversible surgery, isn’t it ( the sort their confreres are advocating for confused girls)?

I just read and replied to the thread on twitter. It's all about the male chasing the next fix of attention and having his needs put before anyone else.

Trans is now so "mainstream" and so "detrans" is the next method

Two things struck me with this: firstly, I want to be special and now all the kids are doing it and so I'm not special any more.

And - and this is not to downplay @TinselAngel's experiences at all, what but what you're talking about is the expectation that women are men's support animals. We need to support them into transition; we need to support them out of transition cos Be Kind. Which of course is bullshit, but equally no surprise.

Here's the thread on Twitter:

twitter.com/transwidows/status/1598977343032172544

Well worth sharing.

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Fantastic post

A thought provoking, uncomfortable and necessary post Tinsel.

As women we are used to having to work harder to be listened to and believed particularly when we talk about anything affecting women and girls. This in large part was how prominent transwomen who ‘seemed’ to agree with us received so much support from women, but as you pointed out we’ve found many (probably all) of these prominent transwomen have used us for their own purposes and at least one has got a prominent second career out of ‘speaking for women’ whilst their trans widow largely suffers in silence.

Detransitioner stories can be powerful as they demonstrate much of the dangers that we’ve warned against. But I agree they need to be used with great care, and we must not allow the detransitioners to become spokespeople for us. We should also be mindful that whatever reasons led them to being susceptible to being drawn into one cause may lead them to ‘seeking’ the praise and profile of another. That serves neither them nor the cause of womens rights.

I wonder how much internalised misogyny leads us to amplify males and even those who identified as males voices above our own as we fight for womens rights?

That's powerful testimony, thanks Tinsel