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The WI non-members questionnaire: quick and easy to make your point

154 replies

pattihews · 02/12/2022 20:52

The WI is concerned that numbers are falling and fewer and fewer women are signing up. It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that women aren't keen on so-called women's organisations that accept men. Quick, easy and loads of room to say what you want.

womensinstitute.surveysparrow.com/s/wi-non-member-survey-for-women-who-are-not-wi-members/tt-xwsByTfSPd3Jomcuza74KF?

OP posts:
IcakethereforeIam · 02/12/2022 22:56

How many times can you complete this survey?

gogohmm · 02/12/2022 22:47

The reason I won't join is I'm not keen on organisations that segregate by gender or sex. Nor am I interested in lectures on plants, poetry or the history of a local town (the 3 thing's listed here)

It's had it's day, that's the reason for its decline, not that theoretically they accept trans women, as if any would actually want to join!

HellonHeels · 02/12/2022 22:44

Done. Thanks for shsring this.

So disingenuous only to reveal their gender identity bollocks at the last page.

Deanefan · 02/12/2022 22:35

I have pointed them in the direction of Jordan Gray’s recent performance as an example of potential members vs the Muslim and Orthodox Jewish women that their inclusivity will of course exclude

EdithStourton · 02/12/2022 22:31

A friend shared it on FB earlier.

I went off on one rather about the meaning of 'woman'. Took me a while to get it off my chest.

PatChauncey · 02/12/2022 22:30

Abitofalark · 02/12/2022 21:48

Not only does the WI think Ireland is in the UK and includes it in a question but it told us at the beginning of the survey that the WI is the largest women's organisation in the UK and at the same time that it is in England and Wales and islands - Jersey and I think, Isle of Man. If that's the case, it's not a UK organisation: it's not in Northern Ireland, which makes it a GB + some islands organisation (Isle of Man and Channel Islands are not in the UK either - they are self-ruled Crown Dependencies - their relationship is with the British Crown, not the entity that is the UK.)

WI is (or certainly used to be) very big in NI.

DPotter · 02/12/2022 22:30

Done
And volunteered for a focus group - that could be fun.....

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/12/2022 22:25

ChateauMargaux · 02/12/2022 22:03

@OchonAgusOchonOh .. I am not so sure - The Irish Countrywomen's association is a member of the National Women's Council who clearly state:

"By ‘woman’ we refer to any person who identifies as a woman.'
www.nwci.ie/discover/about_us

That's disappointing. There is nothing on their website about it.

comfortablyfrumpy · 02/12/2022 22:14

Done

drum123 · 02/12/2022 22:14

You know I didn't think anything was going to top the mermaids CC decision to investigate today, but that was soooooooo satisfying to fill in. Like a nice brandy at the end of a good meal.

Couldn't agree more, boiledbeetle. That was fun!

ChateauMargaux · 02/12/2022 22:12

Did anyone offer to join a discussion?

HappyBackHome · 02/12/2022 22:08

Done. They need to put the second half of the questions at the start - I had to go back and redo a lot of questions as I took their statement about the WI being a woman-only organisation at face value...until I realised they have no idea what a woman is!

magicalorange · 02/12/2022 22:07

Done. Emphasised that as they allow male bodied people (aka MEN) I consider them to be hypocritical in calling themselves a women's organisation and I would not join.

Cornelious · 02/12/2022 22:06

Done

ChateauMargaux · 02/12/2022 22:03

@OchonAgusOchonOh .. I am not so sure - The Irish Countrywomen's association is a member of the National Women's Council who clearly state:

"By ‘woman’ we refer to any person who identifies as a woman.'
www.nwci.ie/discover/about_us

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 22:00

I don't about the rest of you but I am their target age.

Big mistake. Huge!

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 21:58

You know I didn't think anything was going to top the mermaids CC decision to investigate today, but that was soooooooo satisfying to fill in. Like a nice brandy at the end of a good meal.

Its not often I get to say auto..... And penises in a survey.

Thanks for that OP

Abitofalark · 02/12/2022 21:48

Not only does the WI think Ireland is in the UK and includes it in a question but it told us at the beginning of the survey that the WI is the largest women's organisation in the UK and at the same time that it is in England and Wales and islands - Jersey and I think, Isle of Man. If that's the case, it's not a UK organisation: it's not in Northern Ireland, which makes it a GB + some islands organisation (Isle of Man and Channel Islands are not in the UK either - they are self-ruled Crown Dependencies - their relationship is with the British Crown, not the entity that is the UK.)

NotRightNowNo · 02/12/2022 21:42

Thank you, I have told them what I think & shared it.

MrsJaneyLloydFoxe · 02/12/2022 21:39

Thanks for this, I’ve just completed it.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/12/2022 21:30

I had a look at it out of curiosity. Not only do they not know what a woman is but their history/geography is sadly lacking.

In the question "what part of the UK do you live in" they include Ireland as well as Northern Ireland. The Women's Institute do not exist in Ireland. We have the Irish Countrywomen's Association. I suspect they know what a woman is.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 02/12/2022 21:17

Yup I have done it too and told them when I want single sex spaces I want them to be what they say they are.

stupid WI. Why so keen to include men when your whole purpose is women. Why is their self esteem so low and their need for male validation so high?

Rightsraptor · 02/12/2022 21:14

I also told them why I won't be joining. Let the TW have at it.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/12/2022 21:12

I very much enjoyed telling them that I wouldn’t join as long as they accepted men who identify as women as members. I note the last page happily tells you they include transgender women 🤦🏻‍♀️

BoreOfWhabylon · 02/12/2022 21:12

Done Xmas Smile

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