Jordan Gray a beautiful moment of trans expression - Channel 4 boss

Hooty 😂
what this debate needs is more exposure

Yep it's the get out of jail for free card, isn't it?

I'm sure all the women and children traumatised by the lady cock in the Wi Spa, and the team mates of certain trans athletes forced to share changing rooms with them, and the woman who was being forced to wax the cock and balls of a new age woman in a beauty salon, and the women sharing prison cells with their new very tall cell mates, and no doubt countless other incidents, are all kicking themselves at missing their very own "beautiful trans moments".

What bigoted idiots.

Sex offending on national TV.

I’m comparing this with reports that a ‘laydee’ flashed a couple of teenage girls in a station. Presumably this was also a beautiful trans moment. The police will not be investigating (as if!) and the teenagers should not only be ‘reframing their trauma’ but should be forever grateful that they were lucky enough to witness this beautiful trans moment first hand. Can we all look forward to beautiful trans moments like this being experienced more widely? Well that should make the UK a nicer place to be 🙄

Yes, very good point, BatCheese.

"the first time, I think, really on mainstream television you see a trans body and what that looks like. That’s really important,"

That's really transphobic surely. Literally any human body in existence on the planet could be a "trans body" the second its owner says "I'm trans". There's no such thing as a "trans body" category that's any different from all the other bodies. If there is, you're saying you have to have a particular kind of body to be trans, which is not the gender ideology position at all.

😁😁😁

I certainly saw quite a few comments to the effect that they hadn't realised what a 'transwoman' actually was, so I suppose that is accurate.

To paraphrase and avoid deletion, comments were 'oh, it's just a male body with artificial breasts added'.

@Musomama1 oh God yes - Brass Eye - you are right!

white male innit

And ringmaster Elton Ben saying 'thats a knob joke'. What exactly was the joke?? Because I follow comedy and the whole thing is like something from Brass Eye.

From the article ..."the first time, I think, really on mainstream television you see a trans body and what that looks like. That’s really important,"

Yep really important. Few seem to know that majority do not get surgery.

Which I believe is right. I would not want Jordan to get surgery at all. But also not insert themselves in women's spaces.

"What’s even more powerful is young people writing to Jordan and talking about how that made them feel better about themselves, and better about what they are going through."
what are they going through if seeing someone exposing themselves on tv makes them feel better about themselves?

I don’t think it is wise to treat penises like that

it looked a bit squashed as he struggled to find middle C.

Bloody hell. It really is a sacred caste thing, it doesn’t matter what a trans person does, you can just twist it around and claim it’s fabulous. For these people it has become literally impossible for a TW to do anything wrong.

What baffles me is why and how this has happened. Even when being gay was a trendy identity that some young people would adopt for a while just to look cool (or piss off their conservative parents), gay people weren’t on this much of a pedestal. We have BLM and so on and social justice types ride that bandwagon but they don’t generally elevate black people like this either, into an untouchable category of perfection.

how can you not see a plain old flashing male, enjoying the display of dominance and power, enjoying making women feel uncomfortable, and instead let “trans” identity- which anyone can have the second they want it - mean there’s nothing dodgy going on? It’s mindblowing.

Left wing man with cock out = self expression
Right wing man with cock out = heinous must be cancelled
Woman with wrong slogan on tshirt = jail her for hate crime

Yep can see how this works.

You have to go through their complaints process before going to the Ombudsman (it's a legal requirement).

www.ombudsman.org.uk/

www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/contact-us/complaints-about-ofcom

'Ofcom is an independent regulator and we are accountable to Parliament. If you have completed the full Ofcom complaints process and do not think your complaint has been fully considered, you may be able to submit your complaint to the Parliamentary and Health Services Ombudsman which makes final decisions on complaints that have not been resolved. You will need your MP to sign your complaint.'

On what basis have Ofcom decided indecent exposure is ok? Who do we report them to?

'“What’s great is a couple of thousand people complained to Ofcom, and Ofcom back us and say it’s perfectly, perfectly appropriate to put that on television.

"What’s even more powerful is young people writing to Jordan and talking about how that made them feel better about themselves, and better about what they are going through."'

So, this is supposed to be some kind of demonstration for young people?

The piano-playing penis is actually aimed at young people? Or as we used to call them, children.

Cripes.

Does anyone else hear 'beautiful' as 'beaudiful' when it's said like this? Or is it just me?

Apparently Jordan likes to perform to “people who don’t know what they are looking at”
We know exactly what we are looking at Jordan, a man with his dick out

I'll agree it was a trans moment, though. Just the beauty we disagree on.