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WTF is the 'female patriarchy'?

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ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 22:53

twitter.com/wornoutmumhack/status/1597625219081871360?cxt=HHwWgICluYLr86ssAAAA

'Rachel Adamson of zero tolerance says their new report discusses the “female patriarchy” - that voices not heard before need to be promoted.'

Is this an actual attempt to kill off women's rights entirely?

The female patriarchy?

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ArabellaScott · 30/11/2022 08:32

Dontaskdontget · 29/11/2022 23:24

They twist language to get everyone confused and tied up in debates over definitions so that people don’t notice what they’re actually up to, or if people do notice, they find that they no longer have a vocabulary to accurately describe repression/abuse.

It’s very deliberate. You can’t discuss misogynistic hate campaigns against women if the words like women and patriarchy have been deprived of meaning.

At its heart, its all just another old-fashioned crusade against the rights of women and children to speak freely, have privacy and dignity, and have autonomy over their own bodies and lives.

Yes, this is my concern. Suddenly women are going to be repositioned as 'patriarchs' and 'privileged' if they get uppity, aren't they? Sounds like a really neat way of getting women in line.

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pattihews · 29/11/2022 23:29

I've just found a Tweet about today's Nicola Sturgeon meeting which also mentions female patriarchs:

The room was full of self-declared "female patriarchs." State-funded handmaidens who like to apologise for their privilege and defer to men who identify as trans and BAME women. They were positively fizzing at the interruption to her excellency their Paymaster General.

It's clear what is meant here. Women who are doing the patriarchy's work for men. And yes, lots of pursed lips and pencil tapping when a feminist got up and told NS she should be ashamed of herself. Youngish women, mostly. A new breed of professional head girls who know better than the rest of us and are working with men to bring women to heel.

Onnabugeisha · 29/11/2022 23:25

There’s no new report on the zero tolerance website? Is the tweet for real?

Dontaskdontget · 29/11/2022 23:24

They twist language to get everyone confused and tied up in debates over definitions so that people don’t notice what they’re actually up to, or if people do notice, they find that they no longer have a vocabulary to accurately describe repression/abuse.

It’s very deliberate. You can’t discuss misogynistic hate campaigns against women if the words like women and patriarchy have been deprived of meaning.

At its heart, its all just another old-fashioned crusade against the rights of women and children to speak freely, have privacy and dignity, and have autonomy over their own bodies and lives.

Onnabugeisha · 29/11/2022 23:17

The female version of a patriarchy is a matriarchy.
I can’t work out what they mean by ‘female patriarchy’ do they mean matriarchy or are they saying female supporters of the patriarchy?

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 23:12

Melroses · 29/11/2022 23:06

I thought the safe spaces were supposed to be for the victims of sexual violence and not the people representing the victims of sexual violence.

Yes, quite.

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WomaninBoots · 29/11/2022 23:10

I guess once you've played fast and loose with the meaning of basic words like "woman" you can graduate to fucking around with more advanced words?

Fenlandia · 29/11/2022 23:08

The word Patriarchy literally means "the rule of the father"

These numbskulls can't even find the correct phrase to describe whatever the fuck it is they think they are saying.

Melroses · 29/11/2022 23:08

No idea about the 'female patriarchy', sorry 🤷‍♀️

Does it come from the same stable as the consent being about the difference in power stable?

Melroses · 29/11/2022 23:06

I thought the safe spaces were supposed to be for the victims of sexual violence and not the people representing the victims of sexual violence.

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 23:05

Also - If uncomfortable questions need to be asked and uncomfortable topics broached in order to find good answers to how society deals with this issue then people discussing it are going to have to be fucking uncomfortable. - yes.

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ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 23:04

I really am not sure what they mean; if they want to talk about intersectional stuff they could use a different word.

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WomaninBoots · 29/11/2022 23:00

I know they don't mean Sturgeon trying to shut women up though.

They mean the nasty uppity women are talking too much.

WomaninBoots · 29/11/2022 22:59

This isn't exactly in response to your thread just one of the tweets about a "safe, supportive environment"... the priority when discussing VAWG should NOT be a fucking safe and supportive environment for those DISCUSSING it! FFS! If uncomfortable questions need to be asked and uncomfortable topics broached in order to find good answers to how society deals with this issue then people discussing it are going to have to be fucking uncomfortable.

For the love of all gods.

Female patriarchy?

They can fuck off with that.

Unless they mean "Sturgeon's Dictatorship" in which case they can say that and leave "patriarchy" as a word with a meaning already thanks.

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