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WTF India Willoughby Racist tweet

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badbaduncle · 29/11/2022 12:43

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I don't understand this tweet at all - wtf does India mean? 'All one word"

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Happylittlechicken · 29/11/2022 17:03

TWs ARE a subset (whether they like it or not) but all natural-born women ARE WOMEN.

@Bugeyedowl TW are a subset of males, they are in no way women.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2022 16:57

TWs ARE a subset (whether they like it or not)

An intersection ... they are a subset of trans people and a subset of males. Not a subset of women.

Signalbox · 29/11/2022 16:49

It just more language control.
Trans activists love to pretend that the language in relation to trans is organically changing over time. In reality it is forced by shaming the non-compliant and calling us bigots.

Jackiebrambles · 29/11/2022 16:36

@ApocalipstickNow that made me snort Grin

IW is a massive, massive wanker and if they hadn't already blocked me on Twitter I would have reported that tweet.

MissLawls · 29/11/2022 16:31

Does Windy Illerby exist anywhere outside Twitter?

Yes @UrsulaPandress seems to be a guest on choice on a few TV and radio programmes.

Bugeyedowl · 29/11/2022 16:30

Wow. Don't know who this person is but to equate trans women to black women is disgusting and shocking. Black women are women, they are not a subset!!!

TWs ARE a subset (whether they like it or not) but all natural-born women ARE WOMEN.

Disclaimer - don't know all the correct/up to date terminology because I don't follow the trans debate that closely but this is just another way to put down black women and I don't give a flying f-- about the TW 's feelings if they think they're somehow justified in doing so. ONE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER!

Usethesausageasabreakwater · 29/11/2022 16:28

amiold · 29/11/2022 16:01

Yep. Called her out on it and she called me a terf and blocked me. Had to Google what a terf was... turns out it doesn't mean challenging people who talk shit at all

If you can make an argument or a point you’re called a terf instantly.

ApocalipstickNow · 29/11/2022 16:20

WallaceinAnderland · 29/11/2022 14:36

"My period started so, ya couldn't go into the pool. But it was so much fun! Forgot my tampons in my other bag FML."

https://activistmommy.com/biological-male-jessica-yaniv-misses-pool-party-because-he-forgot-his-tampons/

What other bag? His ball bag?

amiold · 29/11/2022 16:01

Somanysocks · 29/11/2022 12:58

IW has always talked a load of old rot.

Yep. Called her out on it and she called me a terf and blocked me. Had to Google what a terf was... turns out it doesn't mean challenging people who talk shit at all

DodoPatrol · 29/11/2022 16:01

BatCheeseIsFine · 29/11/2022 15:54

Not least because IW is way past the age when any woman would need period products.

Wow I hadn't realised this at all! I hadn't looked very closely (and haven't really watched IW on TV ever) and thought IW was younger. That makes it even more interesting about the tampons. Presumably if you really thought you were a woman, had a cervix and menstruated, you'd also think you would stop doing so at around 50 because that's what women do?

A lot of facial surgery involved. Plus, I think quite a few middle-aged male transitioners have said they want to 'have their missed teenage girlhood', so probably don't picture themselves as middle-aged women.

Anyway, who knows what IW knows or has ever even briefly considered about real-life women's bodies? Probably would think it's not relevant to womanhood.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 15:58

BatCheeseIsFine · 29/11/2022 15:54

Not least because IW is way past the age when any woman would need period products.

Wow I hadn't realised this at all! I hadn't looked very closely (and haven't really watched IW on TV ever) and thought IW was younger. That makes it even more interesting about the tampons. Presumably if you really thought you were a woman, had a cervix and menstruated, you'd also think you would stop doing so at around 50 because that's what women do?

Oh my god.... I only wish!

UrsulaPandress · 29/11/2022 15:55

Does Windy Illerby exist anywhere outside Twitter?

Utter tosser.

BatCheeseIsFine · 29/11/2022 15:54

Not least because IW is way past the age when any woman would need period products.

Wow I hadn't realised this at all! I hadn't looked very closely (and haven't really watched IW on TV ever) and thought IW was younger. That makes it even more interesting about the tampons. Presumably if you really thought you were a woman, had a cervix and menstruated, you'd also think you would stop doing so at around 50 because that's what women do?

FOJN · 29/11/2022 15:47

I don't think India is well and hasn't been for sometime. This is not a snide post using people with mental ill health to mock India, I genuinely don't think India is mentally/emotionally stable and needs some help.

Brefugee · 29/11/2022 15:47

it's such a pity, in a way. I do wish Morgan had said "yes, come on the show, we'll do a spot with an OB/GYN on screning for cervical cancer and you can get up in the chair"

Fififafa · 29/11/2022 15:45

IW is one of the most racist TRAs around. Trying to liken black women to men who want to be/pretend to be women, doesn’t surprise me. This is classic misogynoir from TRAs.
IW isn’t getting media roles or invites anymore because most outlets are realising that IW’s grasp on reality has disappeared as fast as that hairline.

Brefugee · 29/11/2022 15:40

I saw a black trans woman (blacktranswoman? black transwoman? can't really keep up but i don't really want to be impolite)
Anyway, saw a black trans woman jump in and basically call them both out, because the first made a transphobic comment, then India replied with a racist comment. And remarked that they, the black trans woman, felt unsafe around both of them.

Which is all by the by for me because i simply can't care for either of the posters. But the transphobic comment? It was - and I'm aware that they do have history so this is probably a bit goady of her - to ask what need trans women have of tampons.

I really, in my most welcoming of trans people (which i am) spirit, cannot understand why this is transphobic. Not least because IW is way past the age when any woman would need period products. Even if they were a biological woman, which they are not. I find the whole thing hugely uneddifying. But am always disturbed by the number of (cis - urgh) men who jump in with TWAW.

I notice the (cis - urgh) men don't tend to spout, apropos of noting, TMAM though. Funny, that.

Usethesausageasabreakwater · 29/11/2022 15:34

Unbelievable

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 15:33

arethereanyleftatall · 29/11/2022 15:24

What's interesting is India thinks she's not invited on shows/got any work because she's trans. Whereas it's actually because she's a twat with vacuous views.

And aggressively so.

I wonder if Willoughby's actions in that Big Brother house were recognised.

That combined with the ridiculousness that they come out with. I mean, offering for Piers Morgan to look at their 'cervix' ... unless you are a suitably a shock jock as Morgan is, who the fuck wants someone like that on their show when you are trying to have a sensible discussion?

I think their instability has been recognised by most media outlets by now.

ControversialOpening · 29/11/2022 15:27

I have plenty of terms I'd rather use than transwoman. They're more accurate as well.

Many places won't accept these terms, despite the fact they are true, so 'transwoman' is a compromise. I will never describe a male as a woman.

arethereanyleftatall · 29/11/2022 15:24

RoyalCorgi · 29/11/2022 13:05

Awful. India is a nasty piece of work. It's amazing that India is willing to display such racism publicly. Why would anyone want to have this person on their television programme?

What's interesting is India thinks she's not invited on shows/got any work because she's trans. Whereas it's actually because she's a twat with vacuous views.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 15:17

Yes edge. I use transitioned male. I would prefer to use men or just male, but sometimes a more defined description is needed.

Hepwo · 29/11/2022 15:16

"who think they're it"

Am I the only one amused by how old the insults sound? That's the sort of thing my 80 odd year old parents say.

EdgeOfACoin · 29/11/2022 15:13

I prefer to use the term mtf transitioner rather than transwoman now. It is not without its issues, but on the whole it is clearer.

Needaholidaypronto · 29/11/2022 15:04

Twitter is a cesspit