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Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces

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ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 06:06

In The Times:

Zero tolerance event bans talk of single sex spaces

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6706e702-6f72-11ed-8a5b-f385de7508fe?shareToken=732040628914a5ae28102b14f150cb6b

"Sturgeon’s speech, due to be delivered about halfway through the event, is expected to last be about 20 minutes. is due to deliver the main speech, which is due to last 20 minutes, around half way through the event.

The decision might have been made to “save the blushes of the first minister”, suggested Marion Calder, director of For Women Scotland.

She praised Zero Tolerance’s work but said: “Thirty years on, Scottish women must be wondering what has happened to this organisation.”"

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MajorCarolDanvers · 29/11/2022 10:58

Someone should ask her why in a democracy attendees are forbidden from
asking the FM certain questions!

RhannionKPSS · 29/11/2022 10:51

You won’t be alone.

RhannionKPSS · 29/11/2022 10:51

Anyone in Edinburgh at 2:30 today? You might want to make your way to the venue to make your voice heard...LOUDLY! You

Walkingtheplank · 29/11/2022 10:29

I see, that makes sense. Thank you.
So unprincipled of her.

Babdoc · 29/11/2022 10:17

Walkingtheplank, Sturgeon leads a minority SNP administration in Holyrood. She is totally dependent on the Greens to get any legislation passed. And the Greens have been completely captured by gender ideology.

RhannionKPSS · 29/11/2022 10:14

Anyone happen to know where the event is ?

Walkingtheplank · 29/11/2022 10:11

Does anyone know why Sturgeon is so anti single sex spaces, why she cant see that some men will abuse her new law? Is she a misogynist or is she being funded by people who want the new law - and who are they?

tresleches · 29/11/2022 09:46

JanieAllen · 29/11/2022 09:43

Zero Tolerance is right behind promoting men www.zerotolerance.org.uk/vaw-position-statements/

Oh christ... I retract my naive optimism

JanieAllen · 29/11/2022 09:43

Zero Tolerance is right behind promoting men www.zerotolerance.org.uk/vaw-position-statements/

maltravers · 29/11/2022 09:39

I’ll let rapists into your female prisons, perverts into your changing rooms and men into your sports because it is politically convenient since I have a pact to maintain with some loonies, but don’t you question me on it! Be nice ladies!

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 29/11/2022 09:36

Women and girls of Scotland, I'm so bloody angry for you.
Sending solidarity Flowers

Datun · 29/11/2022 09:31

This is more of the same issue of people, politicians especially, pretending that they absolutely can talk about women and girls, their safety and protection from the violence of men, and homophobia, sexism and misogyny, because we all understand what those words mean. They understand what they mean, and they know that we know what they mean.

But, because an occasion will arise where we have to pretend we don't know what any of it means in order to service men, none of us can actually acknowledge it in public.

Toseland · 29/11/2022 09:28

I hope no one claps and she's booed everywhere she goes.

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 09:25

She must know that every woman in Scotland has this issue in the back of their minds. She must know how many women are survivors, of abuse, assault, harassment. She must know how we feel, and what we think.

How her actions have maintained an arrogant, callous, dismissive, contemptuous aura of bullshit for the past few years, how women have been failed by her over and over, how women have RAGED at all this, politely, reasonably, consistently, bravely - to no avail.

You can try and 'wheesht' us all you want, Sturgeon, but you can't stop us from thinking.

We see you.

tresleches · 29/11/2022 09:23

The quote from organisers I read said they had "strong opinions on" the issues that must not be discussed, which I wasn't sure if was supposed to be a wink-wink... Maybe getting her onstage in front of a load of disapproving feminists to spout the fingertips shite will be her Waterloo?

maltravers · 29/11/2022 09:19

Well, that makes rather clear she knows exactly the harm she’s causing. I hope the women present raise the awkward questions anyway and hold her accountable - it’s called democracy Nicola.

RealFeminist · 29/11/2022 09:17

NOBDY TALK ABOUT WOMMEN AND WE CAN FOCUS ON THE MAIN ISSUE WHICH IS MEN

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 09:15

Wow Sturgeon is a dictator who hates women and girls.

IllDoItButOnlyForTheAttention · 29/11/2022 09:08

Saw "Sturgeon" and "single sex spaces" whilst scrolling Active and wondered if she'd come to her senses a little bit.

Alas, no 🤬

Brefugee · 29/11/2022 09:03

we just had a week to raise trans profiles though were violance against trans people was discussed, wasn't it?

Now at an event to discuss VAWG ... i can't anymore. We need to fully embrace it. Don't use the word trans.
Then there are no trans people and we can ignore any of their issues because they don't exist.

(not really but that is the logical conclusion of their nonsense)

WomaninBoots · 29/11/2022 09:00

It does not make sense to include transwomen in the category woman for discussion of male violence towards women and girls. Any violence transwomen experience at the hands of their fellow males is born of a different root than male violence towards women and girls. How can we get to the core of the issue if we muddy the waters by not defining clearly who "women and girls" are? How can we discuss this issue fully without appreciation of the importance that single sex spaces play in protecting women and girls?

Banning these conversations is a disgrace. If Nicola Sturgeon had the courage of her convictions she would be prepared to engage in these discussions. She is a coward.

TheKeatingFive · 29/11/2022 08:55

Fuck sake 🤦‍♀️

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 08:45

So many organisations in this country, previously well respected, have become poor copies of themselves through their own cowardice.

FrancescaContini · 29/11/2022 08:44

waterwitch · 29/11/2022 06:31

Hahahaha
How can you discuss ways to reduce violence towards women & girls if you’re not allowed to define what a woman (or presumably girl) is?

Quite.

Tricyrtis2022 · 29/11/2022 08:39

That is completely insane. How exactly do they plan to stop women talking about women-only spaces?