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Cambridge sermon: Jesus may have been trans

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flyingbuttress43 · 27/11/2022 12:25

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/26/jesus-could-have-transgender-claims-cambridge-dean/

Jushua Heath, a junior research fellow, guest preacher at evensong at Trinity College chapel displayed Renaissance and Medieval paintings of the crucifixion, which depicted a side wound he likened to a vagina, and said Christ had a trans body.

Dr Michael Banner, dean of Trinity College said such a view was "legitimate" in a response to one anonymous worshipper who said the audience and choir were "visibly uncomfortable" and upset at the sermon. Dr Banner said the sermon "suggested that we might think about these images of Christ's male/female body as providing us with ways of thinking about issues around transgender questions today".

He added: "For myself, I think that speculation was legitimate, whether or not you or I or anyone else disagrees with the interpretation, says something else about that artistic tradition, or resists its application to contemporary questions around transsexualism."

I'm not even religious, but I seriously wonder if there is anywhere the trans movement won't go in support of their ideology.

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WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 27/11/2022 12:46

Jesus Christ. I was wondering if C of E aligned with my beliefs better than Catholicism, which I have other issues with, but that’s got to be a sign from God that the Church of England is a fucking joke.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/11/2022 12:45

That was probably the point @Happylittlechicken . Let's be controversial and outspoken and shake up those traditionalists. Oooh look at what an iconoclast I am.

PhotoDad · 27/11/2022 12:45

Well, the whole 'Christ's wounds as sexualised imagery' thing was old when I studied some art history decades ago. Could probably dig up some references.

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 12:44

You’d think they’d have at least had the decency not to do this right before advent, and from what I remember, evensong is usually a more spiritual, traditional service attended by older and more old school Christians so this was wholly inappropriate for that service, not that it’s appropriate for any service but ‘know your audience’ springs to mind.

RagzRebooted · 27/11/2022 12:43

Um, what? Seriously... WTAF?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/11/2022 12:41

CoE isn't trying to implode, it's succeeding.

Would they do this about the main figure in any other religion?

A question to which we pretty much all know the answer.

Happylittlechicken · 27/11/2022 12:39

And the fact the dean of Cambridge calls this a ‘legitimate view’. It’s like the Cof E is trying to implode. If they can’t see how insulting this is to Christians then I really despair. Why are they trying to relate everything to trans and gender theory? Those paintings had nothing to do with portraying Jesus as trans. Would they do this about the main figure in any other religion?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/11/2022 12:37

Leaving aside the deepy iffy theology, since when was a vagina under the ribs?

Leaving aside anything else, why would anyone accept Renaissance and medieval paintings as an accurate representation of Christ's body?

That as well.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/11/2022 12:31

Leaving aside anything else, why would anyone accept Renaissance and medieval paintings as an accurate representation of Christ's body?

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