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Change of CEO at mermaids…

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backaftera2yearbreak · 25/11/2022 17:52

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/susie-green-leaves-mermaids/

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BornBlonde · 25/11/2022 23:03

VestofAbsurdity · 25/11/2022 23:02

It probably has been downloaded and saved somewhere but no idea where.

Thank you

VestofAbsurdity · 25/11/2022 23:02

It probably has been downloaded and saved somewhere but no idea where.

VestofAbsurdity · 25/11/2022 23:01

BornBlonde · 25/11/2022 22:57

@VestofAbsurdity is the video still available?

No. It was removed but was mentioned/possibly shown to the Judge in the ongoing Court Case. I have a feeling it was on the Good Law Twitter which just shows how much they know or respect the Law.

It was so epically idiotic, SG clearly though herself above the restrictions applied during ongoing court cases which seems a feature not a bug.

BornBlonde · 25/11/2022 22:57

VestofAbsurdity · 25/11/2022 19:44

I don't think that video thing she streamed during the LGBA case did her any favours either, it just showed to the world that SG had no fucking idea how to behave in the role she held.

@VestofAbsurdity is the video still available?

RedToothBrush · 25/11/2022 22:55

RoyalCorgi · 25/11/2022 18:53

I think there's a strong likelihood that either a) they have had advance sight of the judgement in the LGBA case or b) the Charities Commission has been asking some difficult questions and finding some dubious practices.

Might be something else altogether, of course, but I think it's likely that something is afoot.

It makes the Guardian's recent decision to publish a piece that was nothing more than a PR platform for Green all the more delicious. They couldn't have made themselves look more foolish if they'd tried.

Wouldn't surprise me if the responses Susie Green gave in that were part of the reason for her sudden departure.

As i said on the other thread Green's response was particularly weak when you consider that all you had to do was look on Breslow's LSE profile and see the phrases child's desire and porn studies to see the problem.

Hardly hidden away from a simple Google search. And boy did it show.

It struck me as an admission of how bad safeguarding was because she could not comprehend being able to do more than she did to vet people.

That involves liability.

I do have to say it would not surprise me to see a high profile poster child (or children) pushed by parents eventually detransistioning and all hell breaking loose in the aftermath. There are numerous candidates for this shit show not just Susie Green.

Have to say its a big risk having a safeguarding lead who deliberately bypassed ethics committees and laws in this country and caused another country to change its laws to safeguard children when your own charity is getting multiple safeguarding failures.

Its worth stressing that Susie Green understood the safeguarding protocols in the uk - she also understood how to wilfully bypass them. And Mermaids has been continuing to do similar by doing things like signposting to the Webberleys and sending out binders.

Susie Green's problem with paedo friendly and porn friendly appointments therefore rests with her proven and deliberate ignoring of safeguarding protocols. She can't argue she didn't know about safeguarding kids when she went about avoiding those protocols when it suited her agenda.

Any liability incoming to Mermaids has that gem headed to them like a freight train in a court room.

The trustees themselves have kept her in place for 6 years despite this - and every single safeguarding fail have continued to have confidence in her as CEO. I believe dear Belinda here is the most exposed on that front as the only (?) long standing trustee (don't know about the anonymous trustees). It's really not a great look for Belinda. The newer trustees can claim somewhat differently.

IMHO there are a few other faces at Mermaids who need a big push too. Belinda may wish to identify with the bottom of this list.

BewaretheIckabog · 25/11/2022 22:54

Stool pigeon

BewaretheIckabog · 25/11/2022 22:53

Whilst I despise what SG did herself, she was also a Stonewall stooge pigeon.

Fenlandia · 25/11/2022 22:51

Currently the story is the 5th most viewed on the Guardian website, and top in the Society section. The gender identity piece from earlier this week is also in the top ten most-viewed in the Society section. Sunlight for those Guardian readers who like mushrooms have been kept in the dark and fed shit for years.

Managinggenzoclock · 25/11/2022 22:48

I read it and assumed that charity commission have uncovered something and have suggested to the trustees that they would be negligent in their duties if they don’t remove her ASAP.
I don’t think in and of itself the “minor attracted persons” LSE bloke would be enough to cause this sudden exit weeks after.

BewaretheIckabog · 25/11/2022 22:44

In many cases I see nuance and complexity but for a long time I have thought Susie Green should be in prison.

NoFlowersForEmily · 25/11/2022 22:42

Tick tock susie.
Hopefully she will end up in prison for child abuse.
It is illegal to take a child to a foreign country to have genital mutilation. She did it and not only got away with it but was lauded for it and made documentaries and ted talks about it.
How is this woman not in prison??
I'm wondering how Wagamama and Starbucks and the rest are feeling right now.
Wagamama you should be ashamed and also looking into who you hired who sent you down this dead end path.

Ramblingnamechanger · 25/11/2022 22:41

Wow… it would be good to what Alex Sobel (MP for Leeds NW) has to say about this. He was really proud to be associated with MM and SG. Told me he wasn’t going to comment until investigations were complete.

lechiffre55 · 25/11/2022 22:33

@BewaretheIckabog
I am in the camp that what happened to her child was no different to FGM.

It is cut of the same cloth but much larger in scope to FGM. The outcome is much worse, and there are very very few things in life much worse than FGM.

BewaretheIckabog · 25/11/2022 22:29

I am in the camp that what happened to her child was no different to FGM.

Technically the child was 16 so could consent but after 14 years brainwashing and grooming, affirming they were a girl and needed the treatment, they would not have capacity to dissent.

No different to a cult where it’s ok for kids to marry older men because that’s what the lord wants.

Many of those girls were also told they were chosen and special and it was their destiny.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/11/2022 22:29

Very late to this, but wow. SG has always seemed to me to be someone who isn't all that bright or well-informed, but doesn't grasp how much there is that she doesn't know. Used to work in IT but as far as I know she isn't a graduate, has had no training or high level experience in management, HR, finance, safeguarding or charity administration, so must have been massively out of her depth as Mermaids grew so fast in recent years. The IT leak a few years back was inexcusable and happened in her one and only area of expertise.

Did she appoint the Trustees? Surely others must have had some involvement there as well? I can believe she appointed the egregious Mew, though, and from the look of that tweet screenshot above probably sacked him when his photos became public.

She has been influential in WPATH, see screenshot, so has had influence well beyond these shores. I also saw someone on Twitter claiming that Helen Webberley has said she turned to SG for advice on transing children. That reflects extremely badly on both of them if true. SG should know that as she has no knowledge or training as an HCP or in psychology or any relevant academic discipline she should never have been trying to advise an HCP how to treat a particularly vulnerable patient.

Change of CEO at mermaids…
WomaninBoots · 25/11/2022 22:21

Can we say "strlis*tion of children is child abuse" yet?

I hope this sickening edifice crumbles. I hope people suddenly start to break out in cold sweats as they realise what they've done. I hope the whole thing falls off the tracks before any more children are irreversibly damaged.

I really hope that if the shit is about to actually hit the fan that people actually notice and say "oh look, everything is covered in shit" rather than just carry on regardless...

Needmoresleep · 25/11/2022 22:21

Perhaps Belinda Bell, chair of trustees has, after her cross examination, belatedly realised what a shit show it is, and mindful of her own liability, decided to try and normalise things. Susie may well have been obstructive as she is used to running things. So she had to go.

RedToothBrush · 25/11/2022 22:20

guinnessguzzler · 25/11/2022 17:56

Indeed, quite a non statement after six years of service. Interesting.

That's a 'she fucked up big time' and she's been pushed not left on her on terms statement if ever I saw one...

SnapeAlways · 25/11/2022 22:09

Don’t forget Green got women arrested for saying what Suzanne Moore said on Twitter this evening.

I also hope Jackie is not experiencing trauma and has access to support.

AlisonDonut · 25/11/2022 22:06

I have seen a suggestion that it is being investigated as to whether what she did to her son constitutes a crime or not.

So...time will tell.

Slothtoes · 25/11/2022 22:05

The trustees are legally responsible for what charities do, though I think- not the CEO?

bellinisurge · 25/11/2022 22:05

I agree. Hope everyone leaves her adult child alone.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 25/11/2022 22:04

titchy · 25/11/2022 21:48

Her child is an adult in their mid 20s now I believe, with no association with MM. Let's leave them out of this - they have a very very low profile on SM as it is.

Why have you highlighted my post out of all the posts wishing JG well?
Do you think somebody whose puberty was blocked is like any other adult?

Whereareyourshoes · 25/11/2022 22:01

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 25/11/2022 21:36

Whatever my personal views on Susie Green and her behaviour - her child deserves privacy and dignity and I do hope that they are OK.

I agree.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 25/11/2022 21:59

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 25/11/2022 21:32

I'm sure she'd be great - look at her credentials - taking a trans woman to court for transphobia (and losing spectacularly).

I may have mentioned that to Mimmymum on twitter once or twice 😂

You got the chance to say it twice?? I was blocked the first time I mentioned it to her 😂