Change of CEO at mermaids…

Some particular tweets deleted by SG apparently:

twitter.com/salltweets/status/1596410346096369664?s=46&t=43RB-Je6b3Ux4-e--1xr0g

That silence you hear from slebs is the sound of them checking their old tweets or consulting their advisors.

That TED talk was frightening. No wonder the poor wee child felt like their body was wrong if the body they had wasn't allowed to play with the things they wanted to play with. I do hope Jackie is doing alright after that kind of toxicity growing up and such a public spotlight from such a young age.

Gah, thought Stacey Dooley was a good un. She'd answered some qs on trans women in prison reasonably well in a q and a session in 2019 when giving a talk.

But surely SG’s child is a girl and has always been one - that’s what SG says.

Until now, mermaids attached itself to WPATH via Susie green who was a member. And they stated they follow that guidance.

In an ideal (istic) world Mermaids would come under a professional body as some patient charities do.

I know of one charity that's attached to the British professional body in the field for a certain condition. As such, patient experiences go back and forth to them and they give medical advice to the charity/ members. The charity effected real change in one urgent area a few years ago after many failings were reported to them by members / patients .

There are other separate charities for the condition that operate differently (though all appear to be increasingly singing from the same song sheet.)

I'm not really sure how easy that would be to run in the area of paediatric gender dysphoria, especially given the current climate though.

But it could be a stipulation of mermaid's funding and status that they follow future U.K. nhs guidelines (currently being reviewed) given the seriousness of the safeguarding implications.

As I say, ideally.

And probably overly optimistic and idealistic.

@Rightsraptor TBH the main thing stopping me is that I'm a coward. I simply don't trust people who are so fervently invested in genderism. I daren't get my real name out there. But I plan to open a new, anonymous Twitter account and message him through that.

I'd like to hear from Anna Friel in the roll call of slebs backing SG and MM. She played the SG character in that hideous Butterflies drama, and was singing her praises at the time. Stupid and irresponsible.

@Kucinghitam - go on then, message Alex Sobel MP. What's to stop you?

He posted a photo of himself and some MM person on Twitter not so long ago, all 'I am really proud to support them ....' blah blah.

You'll be doing Sobel a kindness by allowing him to express his new found dismay at all the recent revelations.

Do come back and tell us what he says. 😄

What I would like to see now is Mermaids reversing to pre 2015 Mermaids, which advocated watchful waiting and meaningful support to children suffering distress about their gender.

If they wanted to do this it will take massive rebranding to restore trust. There is surely a lot more to come out yet. I can't see it being possible to do a complete U turn.

My guess is that either the charity will be closed down by the charity commission or the board of trustees will be removed prior to a new CEO. The trustees are utterly complicit in this and should have seen this as a massive risk

growinguptransgender.com/2022/11/25/mermaids-time-for-trans-accountability/

Helen Webberly has tweeted this. Wasted no time in doubling down from her lofty position of moral authority. She suggests The Good Law project could help find the next CEO. I wonder how Jolyon Maugham is feeling about their association with Mermaids at the moment?

There's been no word from what I could make out, from LOJ, Foxy, Nancy K, SW, GIRES, Gendered Intelligence etc.

Nothing from Dawn Butler either...

twitter.com/jimboobeh/status/1559532454456745985?s=46&t=43RB-Je6b3Ux4-e--1xr0g

...then there are a lot of other MPs who certainly support one of MM's core aims to check...

twitter.com/banctorg/status/1524325233276112896?s=46&t=43RB-Je6b3Ux4-e--1xr0g

...as well as the 'slebs...on and on it goes.

Also saw speculation SG may erupt if she gets zero support, which might be a theory worth bearing in mind.

I think it is important to note that the only way Mermaids was able to grow into the leviathan it did was because the key figure in the charity was a middle-aged mother.

Had the front face of Mermaids been anyone else, the strangeness of the message would have been noticed far earlier. No one would have accepted a middle-aged father arguing for this level of psychosexual medical and surgical intervention in children. He would have been shut down from the off. Likewise, anyone without children would not have worked, nor anyone younger.

It had to be a middle-aged mother with a trans child. That's the only figure with enough societal preconceptual armour to be able to slip past the glaringly obvious safe guarding and grooming issues.

And this is the problem for Mermaids. Because of the nature of the subject, it only works if the key voices are non-trans parents.

But it's still extraordinary that SG got away with boasting publicly about it.

Perhaps just a lacuna? Nobody had thought to specifically legislate for the removal of 16 year old male children's genitals because there hadn't seemed any need before then.

The trouble is that FGM laws apply to girls, not boys. Extraordinary as it may seem, it appears not to be illegal to take your son abroad to have his genitals removed

It may not be a specific criminal offence, but it's most certainly unlawful to remove a child's healthy body parts, whatever their sex.

In practice, it would have been difficult to prosecute SG, as the child was 16 (generally considered to have capacity to consent to medical procedures) and because it happened abroad. But it's still extraordinary that SG got away with boasting publicly about it.

I suspect the funding is what will do it for Mermaids, in particular the Lottery. But the issue goes much deeper, they've only ever been one quite small part of the racket.

Waking up to this news and I reminded of this.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8931847/Kids-Company-founder-tells-court-neurological-condition-means-avoided-director-charity.html

The media who spun the lies (I'm looking at you The Guardian, this won't absolve your of responsibility now), the celebrities and politicians with their unfailing support and promotion, the donations (just a few weeks ago Stacey Dooley and Kevin Clift donated their game show winnings to Mermaids) the multiple lies and abuse from Mermaids (of trust, of children, of parents seeking help), let none of it be forgotten. None of it.

I'd like to think so too, but I don't expect it. I would think a lot of the doctors and psychologists who've been heavily involved in this will move on to something else or retire. Their patients and families have probably signed all sorts of stuff that can now be produced to say they gave 'informed consent' and so there is no legal liability.

Kucinghitam please try and get an answer from Alex Sobel…so far no replies that have in any way answered any questions.

The trouble is that FGM laws apply to girls, not boys. Extraordinary as it may seem, it appears not to be illegal to take your son abroad to have his genitals removed.

What I would like to see now is Mermaids reversing to pre 2015 Mermaids, which advocated watchful waiting and meaningful support to children suffering distress about their gender.

I can't imagine how this would work. Presumably everyone who works for that organisation is a full-on (children-know-who-they-are) trans activist. There have been no whistle-blowers afaik. Wouldn't a more reasonable CEO just be perceived as a TERF not only by staff but also by the "community" as a whole?

Hopefully Mermaids will fall - and quickly. The extreme safeguarding scandals cannot continue without consequences. What also needs exposure is the extent of government complicity via funding and policy that pushes schools, children's services & health in the direction of all these self invested lobby groups - Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence, GIRES, Global Butterflies etc. Millions of £ of taxpayers money diverted to fund these organisations trying to transition children via dubious means.

Mermaids problem is well surmised by Sarah Ditum's comment in response to this Guardian Article

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/25/head-of-trans-children-charity-mermaids-resigns-after-six-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Hard to tell from this article why Susie Green has left Mermaids, because there is just an embarrassment of possible reasons. And it doesn't even mention the charity's association with a struck-off doctor, or medically transitioning her underage child

This isn't going to be able to be confined to Susie Green. The problem runs so deep and throughout everything to do with Mermaids and everything it's touched and influenced because of how many people enabled it.