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Balenciaga apologises for bondage bear advert involving child

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PandorasMailbox · 23/11/2022 06:34

They're also taking legal action against its creator

What I want to know is who the hell signed it off and why were the parents happy to let it go ahead?

I've included the images for anyone who hasn't seen them.

Balenciaga apologises for bondage bear advert involving child
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Clymene · 24/11/2022 22:25

But I agree that there is a person/group of people involved in these photos who are getting an especial thrill from thinking they've got away with hiding in plain sight

Clymene · 24/11/2022 22:22

PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:25

Here’s the court doc ad by the way.

A lot of people seem to think it was all one campaign, but it was nothing to do with the one involving the children.

They are all from the 2023 campaign. All advertising their new handbags.

Don't make this into a tinfoil hat conspiracy.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 22:19

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PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:52

I actually didn’t know the tape had BAAL on it until I’d just read it here today.
A pagan god who demands child sacrifice.
This again goes back into the pizzagate allegations, of child torture, sexual abuse a ritualistic sacrifice.
And the third balenciaga campaign with the books depicting… child torture, sexual abuse and ritualistic sacrifice.

Im not sure who is doing this, but it’s not a coincidence and it’s NOT a mistake.

People just want to cling to the idea it’s a one off mistake, or it’s a heroic assistant trying to bring attention to it, because the alternative is too fucking horrifying

PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:44

deepwatersolo · 24/11/2022 21:28

But what for PicturesOfDogs? I can wrap my head around a photographer with paedophilic inclinations finding ways to be with children with his ,art‘. Maybe even coding his proclivities with symbols. (Though the court-Case and the BAAL tape really sound like some assistant wanted to expose him).

But beyond this, what point is there to do/publish these pics? Desensitize the public?

The court doc couldn’t possibly be an assistant trying to expose the photographer, as it was a completely different campaign. I’ve posted the image above. People seem to believe it’s the same one, but it’s not.
Nothing to do with this photographer at all.

How do you explain paedophillic imagery in three separate campaigns?!? That not a coincidence.

As to why they do it, I don’t know, because the like the edge? They enjoy skirting the line between being seen and unseen. It gives them thrills. Hiding in plain sight.

I think it’s a common thing with abusers. Just as much about the power trip as the abuse.

It kind of reminds me a bit of a serial killer keeping mementos of their victims.

deepwatersolo · 24/11/2022 21:28

But what for PicturesOfDogs? I can wrap my head around a photographer with paedophilic inclinations finding ways to be with children with his ,art‘. Maybe even coding his proclivities with symbols. (Though the court-Case and the BAAL tape really sound like some assistant wanted to expose him).

But beyond this, what point is there to do/publish these pics? Desensitize the public?

PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:25

Here’s the court doc ad by the way.

A lot of people seem to think it was all one campaign, but it was nothing to do with the one involving the children.

Balenciaga apologises for bondage bear advert involving child
PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:16

ResisterRex · 24/11/2022 21:09

It’s just the idea of these themes in art, which was inserted consciously in these balenciaga campaigns, which led me to get to thinking of it yesterday.

I just thought they (the campaign people) thought they were being edgy or that they could roll that out as an excuse Hmm although I did find the idea upthread that someone on the set deliberately added the court case so as to draw attention to what's going on in the pictures, an interesting one.

In general, I am certain that child sex-trafficking rings are used by state actors (secret services) to blackmail powerful people, including politicians. The Dutroux affair in Belgium, the Boys Town affair in the US, Epstein… And from a purely macchiavellian perspective, this tactic makes total sense, it is perfect.

I don't disagree.

As I said, I don’t care if people call me a conspiracy theorist, or a flat earther, or whatever.

But to me, three separate campaigns, all showing links to paedophilia, (the court doc one wasn’t the same campaign, it was a separate one in conjunction with Adidas). (So bondage bear, court doc, and torture books) is absolutely not a coincidence.

I think it’s intentionally nodding to the original pizzagate allegations through its themes, which was all about linking abuse rings to imagery and art

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 21:14

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 21:03

Well I actually didn't post those clips you don't like. And by the tone of your posts, it is evidently you who cannot cope with a critique on your posts complaining, when you can't be bothered to contribute anything more constructive. But please, don't hesitate to say thank you to me for finding you some sources you think are more credible.

Should have said ‘one should not share clips if one does not want comments’.
I haven’t watched the other clips but I do at least recognise where they come from. Well done, thank you so much!

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 21:09

Believe me I wish I had just stuck to the main story, I guess I was drawn in by clickbait ‘he gets cut off!!’ and then of course just annoyed it was blatantly staged. But still he’s being defended!
The scandal speaks for itself, they’ve publicly apologised and talked about child abuse, they’ve shut their posts - there’s no slipping under the radar going on. It’s a shit show. I’m confused about this conflation where I’m apparently asking for left wing voices. No, I’m just dismayed by dodgy clips being used.

ResisterRex · 24/11/2022 21:09

It’s just the idea of these themes in art, which was inserted consciously in these balenciaga campaigns, which led me to get to thinking of it yesterday.

I just thought they (the campaign people) thought they were being edgy or that they could roll that out as an excuse Hmm although I did find the idea upthread that someone on the set deliberately added the court case so as to draw attention to what's going on in the pictures, an interesting one.

In general, I am certain that child sex-trafficking rings are used by state actors (secret services) to blackmail powerful people, including politicians. The Dutroux affair in Belgium, the Boys Town affair in the US, Epstein… And from a purely macchiavellian perspective, this tactic makes total sense, it is perfect.

I don't disagree.

deepwatersolo · 24/11/2022 21:08

But, Clymene, not everyone from the left is sold on queer theory.

Derrick Jensen is on the (hard) left and his take- down of queer theory on some Campus is legendary, pointing out that acceptance of paedophilia is inherent in queer theory (it is on you Tube). And Hillary Clinton, a liberal, for all her flaws certainly knows what a woman is, I doubt she is a proponent of queer theory.

PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 21:05

My earlier comment should have said Podesta, not sure where Bodestain came from?!?

As I said, while I’m not sure about the ins and outs of Podesta, and these images, I do believe in the underlying allegation of a network of powerful people abusing children. I absolutely do.

And I believe that these type of art pieces are a part of it, hiding beneath a veneer of plausible deniability of ‘interpretive’, ‘symbolic’ etc.

These balenciaga images have made me more certain of it

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 21:03

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:53

They’ve been posted already and I can comment on whatever I want to comment on! Don’t share clips if you can’t cope with comments.

Well I actually didn't post those clips you don't like. And by the tone of your posts, it is evidently you who cannot cope with a critique on your posts complaining, when you can't be bothered to contribute anything more constructive. But please, don't hesitate to say thank you to me for finding you some sources you think are more credible.

Clymene · 24/11/2022 20:56

@Karwomannghia - watch the Misan Harriman video linked to downthread. He's a very credible source

I'm very confused why you need commentary. I didn't watch either of the videos linked but I've read the Times and Telegraph articles.

If you don't understand why the mainstream left media isn't covering this, then you haven't been paying attention to queer theory.

deepwatersolo · 24/11/2022 20:54

In general, I am certain that child sex-trafficking rings are used by state actors (secret services) to blackmail powerful people, including politicians. The Dutroux affair in Belgium, the Boys Town affair in the US, Epstein… And from a purely macchiavellian perspective, this tactic makes total sense, it is perfect.

As for Pizzagate (as it started, not what it became), I am just not sure. Contrary to my other examples, not one victim came forward. Nor witnesses. What you have are some guys with lots of political connections and with a weird taste. Those disturbing paintings of apparently abused children (even by the artist‘s own interpretation) might just be considered decorative or a good investment for the prominent collector, or might stimulate him, without him ever acting on his phantasies and maybe not even acknowledging them to himself.

Same goes for that pizza place owner who posted some pics and had some stage performances at his place that were in bad taste and laden with innuendo (much like those Balenciaga pics, just some of it more direct).

Pizzagate (as it started out) reminds me of the movie ,eyes wide shut‘. I saw the movie and it was about a strained marriage. Then I saw a careful artistic analysis of the movie that lays out in detail how it is about paedophilia. And now I simply don‘t know what to think. And Kubrick is dead, so no one can ask him.

PicturesOfDogs · 24/11/2022 20:54

ResisterRex · 24/11/2022 20:25

I know what Pizzagate is about. But I don't see this has echoes of it. The photos are plastered all over the internet.

The artwork in the books in the balenciaga campaigns, depicting child abuse and torture are very similar in themes to the artwork displayed by Bodestain an article about his home. These are very disturbing collection by an artist called Biljana Djurdjevic. I believe that’s how the whole ‘pizzagate’ thing came about. Also I believe was art from Kim Noble, featuring many many scenes of organised child abuse, with ‘dissociating’ imagery. She is an artist with multiple personality disorder, and creates these art pieces with her different ‘identities’, one of whom she says is very young. The images are absolutely harrowing, and it’s clear that Kim Noble has been a victim of abuse.

It’s just the idea of these themes in art, which was inserted consciously in these balenciaga campaigns, which led me to get to thinking of it yesterday.

Changechangychange · 24/11/2022 20:53

Datun · 23/11/2022 09:03

Is child sexual abuse really something that could inhabit the 'edgy' genre in fashion?

The fact most comments here assume it's originated by an actual pedophile would seem to suggest not.

Bloody hell. I hope it ruins them.

Yep, I’m sure it could. Same as punks wearing Nazi uniforms in the 70s (not the literal fat right skinheads who came later, the original punks like Siouxsie doing it to shock people).

My in-laws work in fashion and art, I have met plenty of childless head-up-own-arse friends of theirs who would indeed think this was edgy and highly amusing because it shocks the Mumsies.

The Balenciaga creative team clearly thought this was hilarious and witty until they saw the backlash they were getting.

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:53

They’ve been posted already and I can comment on whatever I want to comment on! Don’t share clips if you can’t cope with comments.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 20:51

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:32

Oh and please show me where I have asked for a left wing story? You’re making stuff up in your rabid defence of shite tv 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm surmising that's what you want since Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens (both very famous) are not good enough for you as famous people you want to hear talking about this. So I'm assuming you want to hear from a famous voice on the left. I did specifically ask you who you want to comment on this. Apart from Kim Kardashian, I don't think you've answered the question. Whose coverage would satisfy you as a voice you agree with?

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 20:46

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:29

No I did not look, I wanted to watch a commentary quickly before work and was faced by a farcical body language man pretending to be cut off and a woman talking about thanksgiving, mentioning the ad and then going off into pro life. I was disappointed that these were the clips of choice. I don’t really care about the news being left wing but they were very low quality clips. I’ve since learned they’re famous in America, god knows how! Why would someone post those when there would be plenty mainstream to share?

So basically you can't be bothered to do your own research and are just on here to criticise what other people have found. You don't have to read or comment on these links. Do your own work.

Why would someone post those when there would be plenty mainstream to share?

Go on then, post the plenty of mainstream sources on this story.

OmiOmy · 24/11/2022 20:38

Most MSM are choosing to ignore it. Where's CBS, NYT, Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, PBS in the States on this? BBC and the Guardian over here?

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:32

Oh and please show me where I have asked for a left wing story? You’re making stuff up in your rabid defence of shite tv 🤷🏻‍♀️

Karwomannghia · 24/11/2022 20:29

MoirasSaggyBundles · 24/11/2022 20:20

Yes. I did some searching and all I found those 2 and an NBC article. Actually, the NY Post is centre right. You are the one complaining about the lack of voices on the left. I assume you are dissatisfied with left wing coverage and that's why you are complaining about right wing links on this thread - and I certainly found many, many commentators on the right talking about this. So did you find any other left wing commentators? Did you look?

No I did not look, I wanted to watch a commentary quickly before work and was faced by a farcical body language man pretending to be cut off and a woman talking about thanksgiving, mentioning the ad and then going off into pro life. I was disappointed that these were the clips of choice. I don’t really care about the news being left wing but they were very low quality clips. I’ve since learned they’re famous in America, god knows how! Why would someone post those when there would be plenty mainstream to share?

ResisterRex · 24/11/2022 20:25

I know what Pizzagate is about. But I don't see this has echoes of it. The photos are plastered all over the internet.

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