Stephen Fry

Trans person gets misgendered, or a woman refuses to get her kit off in front of them: gosh how awful, their human rights and dignity are being denied them.

Woman is struggling with trauma from sexual abuse: your self-pity gets none of my sympathy because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity.

Fuck you, Stephen Fry.

FFS! SF is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is.

Absolutely!

Goodness. I didn't realise he was quite such an all out arsehole. I just thought he was a bit of a wanker round the edges.

Hilarious that he's now a TERF. Don't advocate for reasonable, calm debate Mr Fry... very very TERFy that.

Oh well, after reading the article, it's unsurprising that he has never thought how awful it would be for women to have to access a rape refuge where a man was pretending to be a woman and told them if they don't agree, they need to 'reframe their trauma'.

It’s a great shame and we’re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place – you get some of my sympathy – but your self-pity gets none of my sympathy because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity.”

The 58-year-old went on to say: “Grow up.”

His apology involves him saying that's not what he meant. How the fuck else can you interpret that??

Victoria Smith shared this article, however. I had no idea. I suppose ignoring him all these years was probably the best policy.

'Stephen Fry has apologised for remarks that suggested he believed survivors of sexual abuse who pity themselves should “grow up”.

The actor and broadcaster, who is president of the mental health charity Mind, was criticised for the comments'

www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/apr/14/stephen-fry-sorry-for-telling-pitying-abuse-victims-to-grow-up

Ah, he's a Humanist. I am unsurprised at that.

humanists.uk/join-humanists-uk-stephen-fry/

I'm so fed up with these people who seem to think that there is any symmetry to the two viewpoints in this issue. There isn't.

It's entirely bloody reasonable for women to not want to get changed in front of random men. It's entirely reasonable to not want male criminals, including rapists and paedophiles, to be housed with incarcerated females. It's actually inhumane to think otherwise.

And, of course, it's entirely reasonable to want to preserve women's sport! Who the hell would think otherwise?

Maybe there's some kind of forcefield around the name, so if anyone constructs a sentence that includes 'Judith Butler' the gravy sidesteps into multidimensional fragments of questioning brain-drying wow.

No surprise after declaring himself to be a friend of Joanne.

Well, his contribution didn't amount to much but I quite like his phrase 'repudiate with all their strength the Judith Butler'. I assume he got that far into the sentence when even his normal erudition was defeated by wtf JB writes, hence the vague 'the idea of created gender and so on', but I'll happily "repudiate the Judith Butler."

Well he's managed to piss everyone off which is pretty hilarious really.

But the TRAs really are revealing that there is no compromise as far as they are concerned. They are entitled to women's rights and spaces and fuck the impact that has on the women who need them.

Not sure it is that surprising...Anyone who doesn't 100% toe the line will find themselves in this position eg Starmer and his bonkers ideas about what Cass says

Just when the patronising misogynistic irritation that is Stephen Fry begins to fade, he goes & opines on some topic beyond his reach yet again.

Stephen Luvvie Dearheart, wind it in.
Your glory days of boundless talent are long gone, we all know too much of what you think & now you are a fully entrenched member of the establishment elite.

Many years ago, I had the misfortune to hear him speak at a couple of private events without censure, he’s a misogynist to his faux tweedy core, a self-pitying, self-serving, amoral pontificating elitist prick. By his own words spoken in front of me, he turned my stomach & I’ve left him on the side of the plate since.

IMHO of course.

Genuinely surprised to see Fry trending on Twitter and being soundly denounced as a T*.

Sorry - should have added - the zipless fuck is, I think, kind of rare, it was always limited and was largely a social fad. And also difficult to say how many women really found it sexually satisfying.

I don't think it's just that. Unless you mean it in evolutionary terms.

If it was just about danger or fear of pregnancy, you might expect something like a lesbian cruising scene, which you don't really see.

I don't think it's advantageous, in terms of surviving to pass on your DNA, for women to be sexually promiscuous. In fact it's likely to be a disadvantage, you are likely to be killed, left without a provider for your child, or to pass on a sexual disease to your offspring which means they won't survive.

So we haven't evolved to have the same kind of physiological payoff for casual sex.

He may have taken the arguable position that in general, men seem to have higher sex drives and run with it there - to the foothills of extreme, past the extreme, onwards to the Cliffs of No Hope, cleverly avoided the possible Valley of Context and escaped the Forest of Variables, and continued on right off the edge of batshit into the wide blue yonder.

😂😂😂

I lost any respect for Stephen Fry when he signed a letter from the Peter Tatchell foundation advocating for mandatory sex lessons for children from the age of five. And if parents wanted to opt out, they should be forced to jump through hoops to reduce the likelihood that they would do so.

"Parents who want to withdraw their children should be required to come to each lesson and physically remove their child and then bring them back in good time for the next lesson. This way the parental opt out option is retained but the actual opt out rate is likely to be reduced."

www.petertatchellfoundation.org/stephen-fry-backs-our-call-to-revise-sex-education/

One obviously has to read it through the lens of tachels previous remarks about how nine year olds can enjoy sex with adults.

www.pride.com/celebrities/2019/3/04/emma-thompson-shows-support-trans-women-open-letter

On the otherhand she did fly to make an Extinction Rebellion speech.....

Ikr? It seems a dog can't fart in England without Stephen Fry being wheeled out to pronounce upon the matter. He was funny in Blackadder. This , apparently , makes him a great philosopher and sociologist.

On the other hand , maybe he has sniffed the wind and is 'rolling the pitch ' for a bit of repositioning?

She did? How very fucking patronising, Emma.

The GRA was the compromise.

Yes - and even that is something that was arrived at with proper (any?) consultation with women.

more for the graffiti and sense of solidarity.

While I'm at it Emma Thompson signed a letter about 4 years ago telling Scottish women that they should be more 'kind'.

Fry has been pissing me off for decades... I didn't realise the straight women and sex debacle was in 2010.... I am a LONG MEMORIED WOMAN