Is it okay to work with groups whose principles you dont share as a feminist, but there is a common cause?

Wait, so it's okay for a toddler's group to be sponsored by or hold an event in a church? So long as the toddlers' group doesn't have the same aims as said church?

Dream, can you honestly not see the hole in your argument, are you taking the mickey?

The aim of this conference is to discuss education in Scottish schools. What does that have to do with the pro life movement?

Was your toddler group's aims to support the concept of the pro life movement?

Or was it a friendly community group for parents with small children?

Honestly the willful ignorance on here sometimes....

That sentence is so badly written I was sure that it was the Tron Church that had voted to accept gay clergy.

Don't know how some people can bear to work with the Labour party, given their stance on women's rights.
A little bit hypocritical.
No one should have the right to shut down an event though.

You know, I've been to toddler's groups in churches whose beliefs I don't share and even sometimes strongly disagree with.

I guess that's me allied with them, nonetheless.

Thanks, that sentence was poorly phrased!

I think from their website it's the Tron Church which rejected same sex marriage.

"The Church of Scotland voted to allow its congregations to appoint a minister who is in a same-sex marriage"

It's the anti gay one who's picked up this event.

The conference will now take place at Glasgow’s evangelical Tron Church — which split from the Church of Scotland after it voted to accept gay clergy

Oh that's great, glad it's been accepted to go ahead by a nice reputable non offensive venue.. You've proven me completely wrong.

The conference will now take place at Glasgow’s evangelical Tron Church — which split from the Church of Scotland after it voted to accept gay clergy.

I can't parse out which church voted to accept gay clergy, there.

In the context of this thread, which is about a feminist organisation doing a talk/meeting with other organisations who share similar concerns, in order to provide the feminist perspective of the issue, you said:

“there’s no fucking way I’m going to join with homophobic groups who are anti gay marriage, anti abortion, anti women in general to discuss those issues.”

So in this context, no you are not comfortable with listening to feminists. You might get horribly infected by the other perspectives presented, or something.

It hasn't been cancelled. Did you even look at the links in the OP?

As the Times article points out:

It was forced to move to a new venue after the original hosts claimed that the topics they planned to discuss were offensive to LGBTQ staff members.

And the new venue?

The conference will now take place at Glasgow’s evangelical Tron Church — which split from the Church of Scotland after it voted to accept gay clergy.

the original hosts claimed that the topics they planned to discuss were offensive to LGBTQ staff members.

I wonder if the staff were really offended.

I posted a meme on fb and got accused of being prejudiced against LGBT, when in fact the meme was written by a gay man and supported by a transsexual acquaintaince.

It was cancelled because staff refused to work it.

Oh look, I was right! "It was forced to move to a new venue after the original hosts claimed that the topics they planned to discuss were offensive to LGBTQ staff members." - from the Times article linked in the OP.

Presumably because that's exactly the kind of thing that the TRAs and woke millenials don't want to happen.

Not on this thread at all, but on other threads where the topic has actively been about transwomen then yes, I have definitely been called hand maid, naive, etc, in not very neutral terms by any means.

Really, it's just a diverse collection of people talking about a topic of shared interest

I wonder why it was cancelled then

On the contrary to wanting to be right, it's a very hard and lonely place to be in, when everyone on one side is screaming at you HAND MAID and everyone on the other is screaming TERF.

I hope you don't think anyone here is screaming at you.

Okay, we're making progress! So you don't object to people meeting to discuss education, dreamwhispers; the problem is the event sponsors, yes?

'This event will bring together academics, parents, teacher, students, and the wider community to discuss recent changes in Scottish education.'

The sponsors are from various different political backgrounds, by the look of it.

'SPONSORS: The Battle of Ideas, The Christian Institute, Academics for Academic Freedom, Stand By Me (Scotland) and For Women Scotland.'

Yes of course I do. My point was that those people you are talking to and engaging with, you may find that they haven't been cancelled at all, it may just be that their views are unsavoury to many people. That's not cancel culture, that's just a lack of interest.

You're more than welcome to support those people most vociferously but you may find somewhere along the line that rather than "cancel culture" there simply isn't the appetite for the views they hold in wider society

Hahaha.
You have a very linear idea of history which does not concord with reality.

For someone has never heard the reasons why the right to abort is necessary, the pro-life argument could be very attractive and "kind". Next thing you know there is a pro-life voting majority. For many women believed that we had achieved a good position in society, then the TRAs found a way of driving us back to Victorian times.

That sounds all well an good. But it’s all about where you draw the line, isn’t it?

People who are anti-abortion, believe that abortions aren’t merely ‘hurting others’, but murdering innocents.

So by your own logic, you should be intolerant of your own pro-choice views.

Or is it ‘Oh no! I don’t consider a foetus to be an ‘other’’? Or ‘Foetus’s can’t be hurt’?

It is only where you choose to draw the line and you are intolerant of others drawing the line differently….

Basically, you think you are right and good and justified and others are wrong and bad and unjustified. You are intolerant of those who hold different views.

Using the ‘I am a harmless, person who is anti-hurt’, is just a lie you tell yourself, to excuse your own intolerance.

FWS are part of this event, along with many other groups. If it's a front for some kind of brainwashing scam, why would FWS be involved? Makes no sense. You could just as easily claim that FWS are using the event to push their pro-choice views onto the other groups or attendees.

Really, it's just a diverse collection of people talking about a topic of shared interest.