Gendered Intelligence

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This is a good piece on DSDs, as are the two linked articles

differently-normal.com/2022/05/17/an-open-letter-to-all-organisations-using-lgbtqi/

If you work at the uni I am thinking of, I think management will be supportive of your concerns. As well as leaving Stonewall did they recently host a GC feminist event? (Not Helen Joyce at Cambridge)

Wtf????

It's also been picked up (as Hellofabore points out) by activists who are determined to stand by the nonsense of 'sex is a spectrum'.

From the excellent CAIS Files -

'It is also increasingly common for people without a DSD, to identify as intersex, with even Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome being claimed as the most common intersex variation, even though most women with PCOS would never describe themselves as intersex and this is not officially recognised by any medical organisation.'.

Going on what I've seen on Twitter and elsewhere, there is a small section of women (who have PCOS) who are identifying as being 'intersex', mostly it seems in order not to be boring 'cis' women - it's so 'not like other girls' that it's laughable. It's also deeply unhelpful to those who do have such conditions.

We had a poster very recently post the heavily inflated figure of 1.7% (I think it was from Fausto Sterling). And doubled down when we pointed out that they were offensive to women with PCOS.

Some people will be determined to believe it because it suits their sex is a spectrum narrative that they use to prop up their ideological thinking.

You pluck it away and they then have nothing left to prop it up with. That is the issue. It is all built on sand that shifts. The evidence we provide is based on the rock of millennia of evolution that has not really changed.

Now I suspect that poster was very heavily invested in needing to believe sex is a spectrum and that those with DSDs provide proof of this. They jeered and rejected any hint they were wrong, because the number is repeated by trans supportive groups as a proven fact.

That is how misrepresentation spreads and it is hard to argue it when groups supporting those with DSDs repeat it too.

Following this consultation, Stonewall announced in February 2015 that it would now be campaigning for all of the LGBT community and was beginning a path to trans inclusion.

As part of this move, all Stonewall staff received trans inclusive training from Gendered Intelligence. Stonewall also established a Trans Advisory Group to steer Stonewall’s integration of trans equality across all of the charity’s campaigns and programmes. The group reflects a diverse range of trans voices and experiences.

from the horses mouth.

www.stonewall.org.uk/our-work/campaigns/2015-stonewall-extends-remit-become-lgbt-charity-and-begins-journey-trans

If they try to conflate sex with gender at any points, could you stick your hand up and ask them to clarify if they mean e.g. female sex or woman gender? It's really important not to muddle them.

This was my trump card when I was dealing with fuckwittery at work.
Excellent essay about DSDs by a medic who has one

Wait... what?? They're not only claiming to represent people who don't actually want to be represented but are now claiming those people have "gender issues" they don't actually have?

When their spiel is all about how "no one else can tell you who you are" and "bring your whole self to work" and "anyone can identify as anything" how the FUCK do they get to stick me in yet another box?

Because I'm called "cis" when it suits them to argue against me and now apparently my PCOS means they claim I have gender issues so they allege to represent my interests? Does that mean all of us with PCOS and PMDD etc can take over these two bit hate groups and steer them towards representing actual natal women? Because there are a LOT of us.

I received training from them in 2017/18 when I was on my way to peaking but not quite yet. I remember the trainer, a trans man, being quite flustered and talking about hot flushes and menopause symptoms. Also what stands out is that apparently genitals are only one small part of sexing an individual, I think there were 4 other methods cited including chromosomes, secondary sex characteristics and I can’t remember what else but I think they were generally biologically determined, it was a bit mad. I had a chat afterwards and asked naively ‘are you aware of all the debate on mumsnet?’ to which I was told how terrible it was etc. Wish I’d had a bit more knowledge to debate it but I’d probably have been complained about and sacked at that time anyway.

Do the training, then question it with the relevant people. If you complain before the training they’ll dismiss you as biased.

I also found asking questions in the training Q&Q strategic. You know the old MN adage: think of the lurkers.

eg when they start waffling on about inclusive language I asked how GI would advice my employers would use this language in service especially when dealing with people with cognitive difficulties? They literally couldn’t answer and I hoped others on the call could see how poor they were.
The answer to my question should have been “we wouldn’t recommended using inclusive language with people with learning disabilities as it’s just going to confuse them”. The fact that GI didn’t say that showed me exactly the sort of people I thought they were: ideologues who don’t give a shit about genuinely vulnerable people.

Because they (gender ideology disciples) are trying to include conditions such as PCOS as DSD's to inflate the numbers. Needless to say, PCOS is not a DSD condition but as 1 in 5 women have it, it gives the numbers quite a boost.

GI were the ones who trained Stonewall on their Trans policies in 2015, so make of that what you will.

This is exactly what I thought would happen once large organisations started leaving Stonewall - other less prominent gender-peddlers would be invited in to fill the gap. Here is Sex Matters' university page. sex-matters.org/where-sex-matters/universities/
Do please inform Sex Matters as they receive lots of info like this and may well already be working with other GC staff at your institution.