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Dead offices iphone exposes misogyny corruption and racism in police force Gwent

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JanieAllen · 12/11/2022 18:49

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-a-dead-officers-iphone-exposes-misogyny-corruption-and-racism-in-a-police-force-snx6qhrzm

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pattihews · 13/11/2022 11:02

I've just finished reading it. Where on earth do you start putting this right?

Spottybluepyjamas · 13/11/2022 10:41

This is disgusting. The police force is rotten through and through. It needs a complete overhaul and thorough investigations and prosecutions.

CherryBakewellMum · 13/11/2022 10:40

I read this article this morning and was horrified, although sadly not completely shocked after everything that has previously been exposed relating to Wayne Couzens. I have to say, I would be reluctant to call the police if I needed them and agree with a previous poster who mentioned an all female police force, particularly relating to call outs regarding domestic violence and abuse.

RoyalCorgi · 13/11/2022 10:27

AlisonDonut · 12/11/2022 20:52

What the fuck have I just read?

Is there nothing they won't get away with?

Unbelievable, isn't it? You cannot trust the police after reading that.

The way that Surrey Police have treated Caroline Farrow is of a piece with this. They simply hate women.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/11/2022 10:24

I know! It hardly bears thinking about.

HerrenaHarridan · 13/11/2022 10:22

Sure gaspode but that doesn’t solve the problem of the new recruits entering this culture

One of the officers who is being prosecuted based on evidence from this phone trained new recruits

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/11/2022 08:29

Dreadful. Well done to the Sunday Times for its investigative journalism here.

Surely it can't be too difficult in 2022 to do some effective psychological screening before recruiting police officers to try and weed out the misogynists, thugs and bullies?

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 13/11/2022 08:18

That is appalling. And the trouble is, it seems so systemic that I find it hard to believe that every police force is not the same. Perhaps we need to dismiss them all and only hire women.

OmiOmy · 13/11/2022 07:13

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/11/2022 19:19

The article is gruelling - what all of those women went through - police officers, partners and children of these vile men is unbelievable.

It really is. I couldn't get to the end of article.

ResisterRex · 13/11/2022 06:56

The Sunday Times comment is up:

Rotten culture in the police is a nationwide problem

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/98049650-61f4-11ed-8611-a128c33d7159?shareToken=038c762870a744a8491d7facf02b02fd

MumOnAMountain · 13/11/2022 00:41

Very well done to The Times for exposing this.

All that evidence.

Massive respect to this police officer's wife and daughters, for taking it to the press. The abuse they endured. Hope they are all as well as can be expected under the circumstances and supporting each other.

Datun · 12/11/2022 23:52

Jesus. It's bad enough that so many police are misogynistic, racist bastards, but the coverups too. The female officers sacked for whistleblowing. 'We're either called liars or mental'. Fucking hell. It's as old as the bloody hills isn't it.

VestofAbsurdity · 12/11/2022 23:42

That is just horrific. Gwent Police Chief Constable - weasel words won't cut it.

I agree with this:

Nazir Afzal, the former chief crown prosecutor for the northwest of England, has been supporting Jones’s family, and has serious concerns about Gwent police.
“These are industrial levels of abuse, racism and potential corruption,” he said. “Given how this came to light by complete chance, clearly this leaves us with a terrible thought that this is prevalent everywhere. There needs to be a public inquiry into police culture nationally — it requires a wholesale root and branch approach.”

We absolutely do need a public inquiry into the Police this culture seems endemic, every bloody day you read about police officers like this and it seems they are in every force.

inkjet · 12/11/2022 23:35

That felt endless when reading. I hope the women of the family have some peace and happiness in the future.

KikiniBamalamm · 12/11/2022 23:28

This doesn’t surprise me, whilst in college I did silver service waitressing and one event I was called for was a Gwent Police work do. I was warned beforehand about the male officers but let’s just say I still didn’t expect the openly misogynistic comments towards me and my colleagues I received. E.g asking if I wanted to sit on one’s lap! We were swiftly told afterwards that it was best not to say anything and that it was just ‘banter’.

Also during one night out in Newport when a man was harassing me and my friends (and we suspected he had tried to put something in a friends drink) we left the bar and walked past a police car parked outside. Thinking we should let them know, we stopped and told them what had happened etc. All I remember is being so shocked that they just laughed and one of them said ‘what do you expect us to do when women are dressed like tarts’

I was a young woman in my early 20s then and I know we should’ve reported them but we didn’t as we just felt if they were emboldened enough to act like that we weren’t going to get anywhere. Why would anyone believe us??

So yeah, not surprised about Gwent police at all. Misogynist pr*cks.

Coyoacan · 12/11/2022 23:19

Thank heavens for good reporters and newspapers that do their job.

I'm so appalled to think of members of the public like Jen expectly monsters like those to protect them.

TinFoilHatty · 12/11/2022 22:38

I know. Again and again and again we are shown that this is how cops are, this is how our policing is run. It isn't just the Met, or the WYP with their sinister check your thinking visits, is it. It is everywhere.

<awaits our resident plod, who will tip up to tell us that he never sees it, therefore it doesn't happen, we are mistaken, etc etc>

ForeverFaithless · 12/11/2022 22:09

Grim reading.

Why would anyone trust a male police officer after reading that?

TinFoilHatty · 12/11/2022 22:00

I feel sick. Each paragraph a new horror.

As always, those who complain get punished while the perpetrators get protection and promotions. It shows such an ugly side to men. Frightening and bullying colleagues, controlling their family by browbeating their children and wife.

NewJobGoingCrazy · 12/11/2022 20:59

My god that's grim reading. Sadly, not a surprise.

My father was a police man and left after a few years due to the institutional racism, he begged me to never get involved with a police officer.

AlisonDonut · 12/11/2022 20:52

What the fuck have I just read?

Is there nothing they won't get away with?

HereForTheFreeLunch · 12/11/2022 20:44

Horrific.

"grooming the police”
lately the police everywhere seem to be very open to being groomed and used by abusers.

IamEarthymama · 12/11/2022 20:38

I was married to a olive officer in the 70s/80s.
I hoped that things had changed but this us appalling.
I am shocked but... not deeply.

Wales 2022 and this is the standard of policing.
Disgusting and disgraceful.

To Jones's wife and daughters.
It is not you, it was him and his repugnant colleagues.
I send you solidarity and applaud your bravery in speaking out.

DialSquare · 12/11/2022 20:29

Fucking hell. This reads like a Line of Duty plot line but it's real life. Horrific.

IamEarthymama · 12/11/2022 20:28

*Supper

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