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I feel stupid for supporting trans activists and now I have no one to talk to

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Redead · 10/11/2022 05:40

I might get flamed for saying this. I just had no one to be honest with. All of my friends are on the liberal trans rights bandwagon. If I was ever honest about my feelings they would eat me alive.

I've been doubting the movement for awhile but today I broke. I saw a post online in trans group where a detransitioner who was seemingly a happy transperson before was really raw and honest about how they wanted to go back to their original sex because they where having a lot of problems with their surgery and hormones and they had doubts before the transition. It's really terrible they now pee and poop in a bag. They and very young. They are 20. They've never had sex and feel they never will now. They walk with a cane now and the cross sex hormones are making them sick. I thought it was the most awful tragic story. I thought that the trans group would be supportive of them especially since they've been a loving member for so long. And who are we to tell them how to identify right?

Well... I was naive and stupid. Their replies were horrible. A lot of them started out with "That's a really sad sorry but..." Some of them told them they aren't trans and never were trans and they don't belong. Many of them accused them off internalized transphobia.

This person when through something horrible and they absolutely devoured them without a second thought. The mods deleted the post and they were banned from the group. I cried. The hypocrisy! So many of them going on about suicide and mental health problems and supporting one another when they are vulnerable. Well I can't possibly imagine a frame of mind and body when one is more vulnerable. But they treated this person like a leper.

I'm just horrified. I feel lost alone and I hate myself for fighting so hard for something that has turned into... This... I don't know what to call it. But it is awful.

Sorry for the rant. I don't know what I'm looking for from this post. If you got this far thanks for reading I guess.

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EdgeOfACoin · 10/11/2022 06:07

It's shocking, isn't it? The detrans Reddit sub has thousands of stories about the physical toll transition takes on a young body. This is not a benign movement, and it is horrendous how politicians, school leaders, therapists etc have closed their eyes to this side of the ideology.

The reaction to the stories of detransitioners by TRAs can be very quite nasty. I saw a talk by an 'old school' middle-aged mtf transitioner not long ago who described Keira Bell as 'someone who transitioned and then regretted it. Funnily enough, I thought we were supposed to have freedom of choice in this country'. No compassion for the fact that Keira had been a confused 16-year-old when put on an irreversible medical pathway.

OP, there are other groups of people who are extremely harsh towards 'backsliders' and turn nasty towards them. I can't say much more without risking deletion, but I would encourage you to think about the other sorts of organisations that are this vitriolic towards former practising members and draw your own comparisons.

Redead · 10/11/2022 06:04

picklemewalnuts · 10/11/2022 05:55

That's really hard. Everyone wants to be kind, but people can be very confused about what kindness looks like.

I'm sorry about your friend, and sorry you are having trouble processing the situation. I felt similarly. It was clear to me this was scandalous, and that children needed to be protected rather than encouraged further down the path. Everyone else seemed to think I was very rude and intrusive for thinking about it- it was none of my business apparently, and should be left to those very few families it affected.

It felt like being Cassandra- I could see this bus bearing down in us, but no one else seemed to care.
Surprise surprise it's now affecting my family.

It's very scary to know that it can go so wrong and young people are going along with it. I imagine if a teenager even thought this was a remote possibility they would choose to try to cope with the dysphoria rather than trying to fix it with surgery. I'm sorry that your family is affected also. That must be very stressful.

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Redead · 10/11/2022 06:02

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sashh · 10/11/2022 06:01

JulesCobb · 10/11/2022 06:00

A detransitioners support group would be deemed transphobic.

Yes you are probably right.

JulesCobb · 10/11/2022 06:00

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A detransitioners support group would be deemed transphobic.

picklemewalnuts · 10/11/2022 05:55

That's really hard. Everyone wants to be kind, but people can be very confused about what kindness looks like.

I'm sorry about your friend, and sorry you are having trouble processing the situation. I felt similarly. It was clear to me this was scandalous, and that children needed to be protected rather than encouraged further down the path. Everyone else seemed to think I was very rude and intrusive for thinking about it- it was none of my business apparently, and should be left to those very few families it affected.

It felt like being Cassandra- I could see this bus bearing down in us, but no one else seemed to care.
Surprise surprise it's now affecting my family.

sashh · 10/11/2022 05:53

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