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US woman sues after 'gender affirming' double mastectomy

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ArabellaScott · 09/11/2022 11:56

'The defendants 'transgressed the bounds of socially tolerable conduct by abusing their positions of trust and authority' by recommending 'unnecessary, irreversible treatment' without weighing Kiefel's mental problems, says the complaint.

Because of the surgery, Kiefel must endure a 'lifelong inability ever to choose to breastfeed a child' and doubts she will ever find a 'life partner sexually and romantically attracted to a woman without breasts,' it adds.

Kiefel has called for a jury trial and seeks up to $850,000 in damages.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11399015/Oregon-woman-sues-trans-care-team-abhorrent-misdiagnosis-left-MUTILATED.html

Brace yourselves. The lawsuits are starting.

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Helleofabore · 09/11/2022 12:16

Thank you for sharing Arabella.

It is heartbreaking that the detransitioners have to do this. It is very brave to make a stand against the poor quality care that has been allowed to happen for this group of patients.

IcakethereforeIam · 09/11/2022 12:16

This is a bit of a tangent, an article about surgery to increase the height of people (principly men) who think the are too short. There were a couple of bits that stood out. One surgeon who has his patients assessed and will not treat those who seem to have body dymorphia. I suspect he's probably a minority but this, imo, should be the minimum requirement for elective treatments. And the words at the end from a man who underwent the procedure but still wishes he hadn't felt it necessary because of how society treats short men. I think those wishes should be extended to all people who don't or can't conform to society's expectations.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/nov/09/would-you-have-your-legs-broken-to-make-yourself-taller-the-men-who-go-through-hell-for-a-little-extra-height

All the best to Kiefal, I hope, succeed or fail, she drags this into the light. If it makes just one therapist think twice or saves just one person. It will never compensate for what she's been through but might ameliorate the pain a little.

ArabellaScott · 09/11/2022 12:14

The issue, surely, is a woman presenting with distress over her body and the solution being offered/suggested is surgery.

It's equivalent to anorexics being offered bariatric surgery.

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RoseslnTheHospital · 09/11/2022 12:12

Two video consultations for someone to be approved for an elective double mastectomy?? Wow. I can't see how this clinic could justify that as taking appropriate care of someone with obviously complex mental health issues.

ArabellaScott · 09/11/2022 12:11

It's not just the effect on her ability to breastfeed, though. She's had complications, pain, and the mental effects are not negligable, either.

It does seem a low amount.

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aweegc · 09/11/2022 12:10

Rightsraptor · 09/11/2022 12:08

Only $850,000? That surprised me.

Me too.

We're now at putting a price on breastfeeding though...and we all know how much women are valued.

ArabellaScott · 09/11/2022 12:09

lifelong inability ever to choose to breastfeed a child'

I suppose it's another way of saying she will never breastfeed.

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Rightsraptor · 09/11/2022 12:08

Only $850,000? That surprised me.

aweegc · 09/11/2022 12:08

Getting the lawsuit popcorn ready. Not to trivialise this type of suit, it's horrific, but because there's going to be a lot of them - especially if she wins.

However lifelong inability ever to choose to breastfeed a child' this struck me as odd/tenuous. Women don't have a lifelong ability to breastfeed do they? Plus many women don't have the choice in the US because they have to return to work full-time before they've even stopped bleeding. While others just can't, for no known reason. The wording of this sounds a bit "loose". I hope the rest is tight as hell, because I want her to win.

ginghamstarfish · 09/11/2022 12:08

I'm only amazed at the low figure of $850k, thought these kind of things were in the millions.
I must say when I read this kind of story I feel rather annoyed. No doubt this person would have sued the relevant parties had they refused to do the surgery. Surely there is paperwork prior to these unneccessary surgeries to say that it is the informed wish of the patient etc? One good thing about this may be that surgeons and doctors may now distance themselves from this trans ideology and refuse to consider such cases.

ArabellaScott · 09/11/2022 12:00

Kiefel is supported by WoLF: womensliberationfront.org/supporting-detrans-women

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